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About gef-dev [message #176852]

Tue, 12 April 2005 10:09

Brian Fernandes

Messages: 68
Registered: July 2009

Member

Hey Guys,

I went to the gef-dev page just now to see how exactly gef-dev was
described.

Here's what we have on the page

https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/gef-dev
Quote

About gef-dev
Come here to participate in technical discussions related to the new GEF
which implements a drawing framework for Eclipse.

Unquote

For some of us "technical discussions related to new GEF" is pretty clear
cut.

New users, however, would find the distinction between "technical GEF
discussion" and "how to use X / my connection router is not working / I
cannot select my EditParts" somewhat blurry. I don't think we can blame them
for posting on the mailing lists because of that rather brief description,
and mailing lists in general are used quite often for discussions which we
rather have in our newsgroups. New users, might not even be aware of the
fact that a separate GEF newsgroup exists.

If you think the definition is adequate - consider the number of users
posting the wrong type of questions on the mailing lists.

So...
Can we change the description to something more elaborate?
As Gunnar mentioned earlier - there is a good description here
http://www.eclipse.org/mail/index.html

But if you go to the GEF page - you could wind up at the gef-dev
subscription page without ever having seen the description above. And if you
have - we should "reinforce" it.

We could use the description at the above page or maybe rewrite it with an
example along with text in BOLD RED just to make sure :-)

Just my two bits,
Brian.

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Re: About gef-dev [message #177080 is a reply to message #176852]

Tue, 12 April 2005 19:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: none.us.ibm.com

I agree. All pages and descriptions you mention are managed by
webmaster@eclipse.org. Contact webmaster with your suggestions. Or there
may even be a new bugzilla component for the website in general.

"Brian Fernandes" <brian.fernandes@genuitec.com> wrote in message
news:d3g731$pdg$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Hey Guys,
>
> I went to the gef-dev page just now to see how exactly gef-dev was
> described.
>
> Here's what we have on the page
>
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/gef-dev
> Quote
>
> About gef-dev
> Come here to participate in technical discussions related to the new GEF
> which implements a drawing framework for Eclipse.
>
> Unquote
>
> For some of us "technical discussions related to new GEF" is pretty clear
> cut.
>
> New users, however, would find the distinction between "technical GEF
> discussion" and "how to use X / my connection router is not working / I
> cannot select my EditParts" somewhat blurry. I don't think we can blame
> them for posting on the mailing lists because of that rather brief
> description, and mailing lists in general are used quite often for
> discussions which we rather have in our newsgroups. New users, might not
> even be aware of the fact that a separate GEF newsgroup exists.
>
> If you think the definition is adequate - consider the number of users
> posting the wrong type of questions on the mailing lists.
>
> So...
> Can we change the description to something more elaborate?
> As Gunnar mentioned earlier - there is a good description here
> http://www.eclipse.org/mail/index.html
>
> But if you go to the GEF page - you could wind up at the gef-dev
> subscription page without ever having seen the description above. And if
> you have - we should "reinforce" it.
>
> We could use the description at the above page or maybe rewrite it with an
> example along with text in BOLD RED just to make sure :-)
>
> Just my two bits,
> Brian.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: About gef-dev [message #177157 is a reply to message #177080]

Tue, 12 April 2005 20:47

Brian Fernandes

Messages: 68
Registered: July 2009

Member

"Randy Hudson" <none@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:d3h7gg$coi$1@news.eclipse.org...
>I agree. All pages and descriptions you mention are managed by
>webmaster@eclipse.org. Contact webmaster with your suggestions. Or there
>may even be a new bugzilla component for the website in general.

Good deal.

I've filed a bug report (Community > Websites :) )
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=91201

Hope this stems the flow on the mailing list.

Brian.

>
> "Brian Fernandes" <brian.fernandes@genuitec.com> wrote in message
> news:d3g731$pdg$1@news.eclipse.org...
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> I went to the gef-dev page just now to see how exactly gef-dev was
>> described.
>>
>> Here's what we have on the page
>>
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/gef-dev
>> Quote
>>
>> About gef-dev
>> Come here to participate in technical discussions related to the new GEF
>> which implements a drawing framework for Eclipse.
>>
>> Unquote
>>
>> For some of us "technical discussions related to new GEF" is pretty clear
>> cut.
>>
>> New users, however, would find the distinction between "technical GEF
>> discussion" and "how to use X / my connection router is not working / I
>> cannot select my EditParts" somewhat blurry. I don't think we can blame
>> them for posting on the mailing lists because of that rather brief
>> description, and mailing lists in general are used quite often for
>> discussions which we rather have in our newsgroups. New users, might not
>> even be aware of the fact that a separate GEF newsgroup exists.
>>
>> If you think the definition is adequate - consider the number of users
>> posting the wrong type of questions on the mailing lists.
>>
>> So...
>> Can we change the description to something more elaborate?
>> As Gunnar mentioned earlier - there is a good description here
>> http://www.eclipse.org/mail/index.html
>>
>> But if you go to the GEF page - you could wind up at the gef-dev
>> subscription page without ever having seen the description above. And if
>> you have - we should "reinforce" it.
>>
>> We could use the description at the above page or maybe rewrite it with
>> an example along with text in BOLD RED just to make sure :-)
>>
>> Just my two bits,
>> Brian.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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