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Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171629] Mon, 14 March 2005 15:41 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: jsk_lam.hotmail.com

GEF is so difficult to understand and work with. Especially for the new
comers. No doubt that it is very well designed and a great product, but
the documenation are so Poooooooor. The only resource on how-to get start
is the red-book, the more you read it the more you get confused :-(

We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.

GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
solution :-(
Re: Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171642 is a reply to message #171629] Mon, 14 March 2005 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: none.us.ibm.com

Poor Guy wrote:
> GEF is so difficult to understand and work with. Especially for the new
> comers. No doubt that it is very well designed and a great product, but
> the documenation are so Poooooooor. The only resource on how-to get
> start is the red-book, the more you read it the more you get confused :-(
>
> We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
> Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
> Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.
>
> GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
> solution :-(
>
>
>

I don't think there really needs to be a book, but better yet more
documented examples. Learning GEF now is much easier than say about a
year ago when there were no documented examples (ie., Shapes, Schema
Diagram).

At least that's how it works for me. In the beginning it took a lot of
banging to get stuff working. Something nice might be similar to the
Eclipse 3.0 FAQs, like a GEF FAQs. It might be nice to have a documented
book with an index to something like "How the hell do I implement that
ruler thingy in my GEF application" :)?

I think the Eclipse wiki tried to take care of this problem somewhat.

Cheers,

~ Chris
Re: Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171728 is a reply to message #171629] Mon, 14 March 2005 19:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beth Tibbitts is currently offline Beth TibbittsFriend
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See news://news.eclipse.org:119/cttfn4$gpp$1@www.eclipse.org
which is a post on recommended GEF reading.

The post is from 3 Feb 2005 10:24 AM entitled
"Re: how to read GEF source code ? (Introductory GEF info)"

Note that since then, I'd add (near the top of the list)
the appendices in "SWT/JFace In Action" by Matthew Scarpino et.al,
which was referenced in an earlier post to this forum.
There are two appendices, one on Draw2d, and one on GEF itself,
which are very good introductory articles.

....Beth
Re: Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171815 is a reply to message #171629] Tue, 15 March 2005 10:21 Go to previous message
Andreas Holtz is currently offline Andreas HoltzFriend
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Poor Guy schrieb am 14.03.2005 16:41:
> We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
> Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
> Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.
>
> GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
> solution :-(

I had the same problem like you some weeks ago. the IBM redbook is quite
ok for understanding the principles but it´s far to detailed, especially
because some of the presented sourcecode exists as ready-to-use abstract
classes.
a very nice introduction are the examples under

http://www13.plala.or.jp/observe/GEF/
Gef1.zip to Gef11.zip.

It´s a quite easy helloWorld example, but if you code it, you´ll
understand GEF and it´s principles quite easy. it took me about one week
to code all examples, but after that, i was able to code my first own
GEF project :-)

*but*: the examples are not perfect. the comments are on japanese, so
sometimes you don´t know, why you are doing somethings, but after a
while you see and understand it... well... someone could say, you are
not perfect because you don´t understand japanese :-D

another good example is in the german Eclipse Magazine, Vol 2.
You´ll find the code here
http://www.eclipseteam.de/wiki/bin/view/Public/EclipseGef
or here
http://www.eclipseteam.de/gef

Greets

Andreas
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