Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171629] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 15:41 |
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Originally posted by: jsk_lam.hotmail.com
GEF is so difficult to understand and work with. Especially for the new
comers. No doubt that it is very well designed and a great product, but
the documenation are so Poooooooor. The only resource on how-to get start
is the red-book, the more you read it the more you get confused :-(
We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.
GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
solution :-(
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Re: Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171642 is a reply to message #171629] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 16:10 |
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Originally posted by: none.us.ibm.com
Poor Guy wrote:
> GEF is so difficult to understand and work with. Especially for the new
> comers. No doubt that it is very well designed and a great product, but
> the documenation are so Poooooooor. The only resource on how-to get
> start is the red-book, the more you read it the more you get confused :-(
>
> We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
> Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
> Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.
>
> GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
> solution :-(
>
>
>
I don't think there really needs to be a book, but better yet more
documented examples. Learning GEF now is much easier than say about a
year ago when there were no documented examples (ie., Shapes, Schema
Diagram).
At least that's how it works for me. In the beginning it took a lot of
banging to get stuff working. Something nice might be similar to the
Eclipse 3.0 FAQs, like a GEF FAQs. It might be nice to have a documented
book with an index to something like "How the hell do I implement that
ruler thingy in my GEF application" :)?
I think the Eclipse wiki tried to take care of this problem somewhat.
Cheers,
~ Chris
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Re: Need a good technical book on GEF [message #171815 is a reply to message #171629] |
Tue, 15 March 2005 10:21 |
Andreas Holtz Messages: 53 Registered: July 2009 |
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Poor Guy schrieb am 14.03.2005 16:41:
> We realy need someone with great GEF knowledge to come out a book like
> Charles Petzol's Windows Programming book. It is a Windows Programming
> Bible in early days (1990) and is a MUST HAVE for every Windows developers.
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> GEF - you have wasted me many many hours just try to find a simple
> solution :-(
I had the same problem like you some weeks ago. the IBM redbook is quite
ok for understanding the principles but it´s far to detailed, especially
because some of the presented sourcecode exists as ready-to-use abstract
classes.
a very nice introduction are the examples under
http://www13.plala.or.jp/observe/GEF/
Gef1.zip to Gef11.zip.
It´s a quite easy helloWorld example, but if you code it, you´ll
understand GEF and it´s principles quite easy. it took me about one week
to code all examples, but after that, i was able to code my first own
GEF project :-)
*but*: the examples are not perfect. the comments are on japanese, so
sometimes you don´t know, why you are doing somethings, but after a
while you see and understand it... well... someone could say, you are
not perfect because you don´t understand japanese :-D
another good example is in the german Eclipse Magazine, Vol 2.
You´ll find the code here
http://www.eclipseteam.de/wiki/bin/view/Public/EclipseGef
or here
http://www.eclipseteam.de/gef
Greets
Andreas
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