| Performance on linux is bad? [message #168367] |
Tue, 09 December 2003 17:04  |
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Originally posted by: torsten.tkunkel.de
Hello,
since a few days I run my computer on Linux.
In order to develop my programms I installed eclipse today.
I noticed that it is extreamly slow, for my feeling the windowsversion
runs about 5times smoother than the linux-version.
I tried the gtk and the motiv-version both.
Am I doing some mistakes? It's hard to beliefe, that such a great
software runs such increadible slow :(
Greetings
Torsten
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| Re: Performance on linux is bad? [message #168702 is a reply to message #168454] |
Wed, 10 December 2003 10:27  |
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I'm not sure this is an eclipse or SWT related issue, I do believe it is a
Xfree/GTK issue.
Any graphical application is slower on linux.
Some new implementation of xservers are on the way.
Check Xouvert or Y xservers for further information on xfree's
alternatives.
If the x layer performance is a real issue to you, you should consider
trying DirectFB (it's still beta, or maybe alpha though, so it would not
be something to try if you aren't confident enough in your configuration
skills ;))
Daniel Holmlund wrote:
> At some point in the future I probably will try to submit a few patches,
> but for now I agree the Eclipse environment under Linux is quite slow.
> I would love to see some more activity in this area as well.
> Dan
> Philip Borlin wrote:
> > The SWT implementation for Windows is far superior to the one developed
> > for Linux. If the SWT developers tuned Linux up a little bit then it
> > would speed up Eclipse on Linux greatly. Maybe drop a note to them
> > about the demand for a faster Linux version or better yet, delve into
> > the code and submit a few patches?
> >
> > -Phil
> >
> > Torsten Kunkel wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> since a few days I run my computer on Linux.
> >> In order to develop my programms I installed eclipse today.
> >> I noticed that it is extreamly slow, for my feeling the windowsversion
> >> runs about 5times smoother than the linux-version.
> >> I tried the gtk and the motiv-version both.
> >>
> >> Am I doing some mistakes? It's hard to beliefe, that such a great
> >> software runs such increadible slow :(
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Torsten
> >>
> >
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| Re: Performance on linux is bad? [message #168854 is a reply to message #168702] |
Wed, 10 December 2003 15:54 |
| Eclipse User |
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Native GTK/XFree application are quick - and eclipse is quick except Visual
Editor
regards
Jean Couillaud wrote:
> I'm not sure this is an eclipse or SWT related issue, I do believe it is a
> Xfree/GTK issue.
> Any graphical application is slower on linux.
> Some new implementation of xservers are on the way.
> Check Xouvert or Y xservers for further information on xfree's
> alternatives.
> If the x layer performance is a real issue to you, you should consider
> trying DirectFB (it's still beta, or maybe alpha though, so it would not
> be something to try if you aren't confident enough in your configuration
> skills ;))
>
> Daniel Holmlund wrote:
>
>> At some point in the future I probably will try to submit a few patches,
>> but for now I agree the Eclipse environment under Linux is quite slow.
>
>> I would love to see some more activity in this area as well.
>
>> Dan
>
>> Philip Borlin wrote:
>> > The SWT implementation for Windows is far superior to the one developed
>> > for Linux. If the SWT developers tuned Linux up a little bit then it
>> > would speed up Eclipse on Linux greatly. Maybe drop a note to them
>> > about the demand for a faster Linux version or better yet, delve into
>> > the code and submit a few patches?
>> >
>> > -Phil
>> >
>> > Torsten Kunkel wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> since a few days I run my computer on Linux.
>> >> In order to develop my programms I installed eclipse today.
>> >> I noticed that it is extreamly slow, for my feeling the windowsversion
>> >> runs about 5times smoother than the linux-version.
>> >> I tried the gtk and the motiv-version both.
>> >>
>> >> Am I doing some mistakes? It's hard to beliefe, that such a great
>> >> software runs such increadible slow :(
>> >>
>> >> Greetings
>> >>
>> >> Torsten
>> >>
>> >
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| Re: Performance on linux is bad? [message #172290 is a reply to message #168367] |
Fri, 19 December 2003 04:45 |
| Eclipse User |
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Torsten Kunkel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> since a few days I run my computer on Linux.
> In order to develop my programms I installed eclipse today.
> I noticed that it is extreamly slow, for my feeling the windowsversion
> runs about 5times smoother than the linux-version.
> I tried the gtk and the motiv-version both.
>
> Am I doing some mistakes? It's hard to beliefe, that such a great
> software runs such increadible slow :(
>
No mistakes, it's the truth and there is not much you can do about
it, there is even an open bug (https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=37683)
but not much activity (ie, it seems swt developers don't care much)
Complaining with the x server is ridicolous, since this is not
a graphic application, and native gtk apps are fast (and native qt
even faster in my opinion).
Anyway, here is a list of tips I've collected on the newsgroups to have
a more beareble experience:
* if you're using an NVidia card, download yanc and tune up the card;
* disable font antialiasing (I've set up a small bash script to start up eclipse with antialiasing
disabled)
( http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/plat form-swt-home/faq.html#gtkfontsandcolors)
* try changing the theme, the default one on my mandrake box was slower
than others
This helps a bit and turns Eclipse into something I can bear using,
but I can tell you that Netbeans gui is definitely faster
on my pc once the beast is started.
Oh, it also seems to be pc dependent. My graphic card is a NVidia GeForce 256,
and I'm using KDE, Gnome is not installed, distribution is Mandrake 9.2.
Maybe if we find what make some pc's slower than others it would make
swt developer task easier...
Best regards
Andrea Aime
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| Re: Performance on linux is bad? [message #172634 is a reply to message #168367] |
Fri, 19 December 2003 17:05 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: davidoii.hotmail.com
Maybe you could give a little more information about your system...
Mine:
Proc: Athlon XP 1800+
Ram: 512 MB
Linux: 2.4.20-r9 (Gentoo)
Gnome: 2.4 (gtk+ 2.2.4)
XFree: 4.3.0
Java: 1.4.2_03-b02
I think that is all that really matters..
Anyway, I don't have any problems with Eclipse running slow and my
machine isn't top of the line.
Fill in the above and maybe we can get you some more information or
suggestions.
David
Torsten Kunkel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> since a few days I run my computer on Linux.
> In order to develop my programms I installed eclipse today.
> I noticed that it is extreamly slow, for my feeling the windowsversion
> runs about 5times smoother than the linux-version.
> I tried the gtk and the motiv-version both.
>
> Am I doing some mistakes? It's hard to beliefe, that such a great
> software runs such increadible slow :(
>
> Greetings
>
> Torsten
>
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