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Eclipse as a client platform [message #15855]

Sun, 04 August 2002 19:01

Mike Evans

Messages: 12
Registered: July 2009

Junior Member

Hullo,

Following a colleague's recommendation, I downloaded and used Eclipse as a
Java IDE for close on three months (ironically, developing a Swing GUI)
before I bothered to go to the website and find out how much more than a
single IDE the Eclipse project aims to be.

I have now enthusiastically taken up trying to develop my own plug-ins
('trying' being the operative word - I'm still an Eclipse newbie). However
I am not attempting to build further development functionality. Rather, it
appears to me that Eclipse is a perfect platform on which to build 'normal'
end-user applications.

Eclipse:
1. is modular through plugins (functionality) and perspectives (user
interface);
2. is easily configurable;
3. has a decent "native" GUI which can be developed quickly using JFace;
4. is supported on pretty much any client OS;
5. has a friendly licence (the CPL) and developer community (judging from
the newsgroups) ,
6. has an integrated development environment (!)

Does anyone else think the same way? Or indeed is anyone else developing
client apps on top of the runtime? If so I would be very interested in
discussing the pros' and con's of this idea.

Regards,

Mike E.

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #15891 is a reply to message #15855]

Mon, 05 August 2002 12:58

Werner Keil

Messages: 1087
Registered: July 2009

Senior Member

Yes, you are perfectly right!

I have been developing some Eclipse plugins
for quite a while working on an new generation Open Source
MIS (Medical Information System) platform.

So far we have only come to certain plugins but are eagerly
developing new ones and hope to get support from other developers

Come visit the project under
https://sourceforge.net/projects/paracelsus/

And we are lookig forward to a lot of other good applications
based on Eclipse.

Best Regards,

Werner Keil
MedSurvey.org

"Mike Evans" <mme@blueyonder.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:aijtj5$jvg$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hullo,
>
> Following a colleague's recommendation, I downloaded and used Eclipse as a
> Java IDE for close on three months (ironically, developing a Swing GUI)
> before I bothered to go to the website and find out how much more than a
> single IDE the Eclipse project aims to be.
>
> I have now enthusiastically taken up trying to develop my own plug-ins
> ('trying' being the operative word - I'm still an Eclipse newbie).
However
> I am not attempting to build further development functionality. Rather,
it
> appears to me that Eclipse is a perfect platform on which to build
'normal'
> end-user applications.
>
> Eclipse:
> 1. is modular through plugins (functionality) and perspectives (user
> interface);
> 2. is easily configurable;
> 3. has a decent "native" GUI which can be developed quickly using JFace;
> 4. is supported on pretty much any client OS;
> 5. has a friendly licence (the CPL) and developer community (judging from
> the newsgroups) ,
> 6. has an integrated development environment (!)
>
> Does anyone else think the same way? Or indeed is anyone else developing
> client apps on top of the runtime? If so I would be very interested in
> discussing the pros' and con's of this idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike E.
>
>
>
>

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #15942 is a reply to message #15891]

Mon, 05 August 2002 19:55

Max Rydahl Andersen

Messages: 23
Registered: July 2009

Junior Member

Not much to see there except for the pages made available for a default
sourceforge project.
Nothing in cvs, discussion etc. - where does one make a visit then ? ;)

/max

"Werner Keil" <werner.keil@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:ailslo$bti$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Yes, you are perfectly right!
>
> I have been developing some Eclipse plugins
> for quite a while working on an new generation Open Source
> MIS (Medical Information System) platform.
>
> So far we have only come to certain plugins but are eagerly
> developing new ones and hope to get support from other developers
>
> Come visit the project under
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/paracelsus/
>
> And we are lookig forward to a lot of other good applications
> based on Eclipse.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Werner Keil
> MedSurvey.org
>
>
> "Mike Evans" <mme@blueyonder.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:aijtj5$jvg$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > Hullo,
> >
> > Following a colleague's recommendation, I downloaded and used Eclipse as
a
> > Java IDE for close on three months (ironically, developing a Swing GUI)
> > before I bothered to go to the website and find out how much more than a
> > single IDE the Eclipse project aims to be.
> >
> > I have now enthusiastically taken up trying to develop my own plug-ins
> > ('trying' being the operative word - I'm still an Eclipse newbie).
> However
> > I am not attempting to build further development functionality. Rather,
> it
> > appears to me that Eclipse is a perfect platform on which to build
> 'normal'
> > end-user applications.
> >
> > Eclipse:
> > 1. is modular through plugins (functionality) and perspectives (user
> > interface);
> > 2. is easily configurable;
> > 3. has a decent "native" GUI which can be developed quickly using JFace;
> > 4. is supported on pretty much any client OS;
> > 5. has a friendly licence (the CPL) and developer community (judging
from
> > the newsgroups) ,
> > 6. has an integrated development environment (!)
> >
> > Does anyone else think the same way? Or indeed is anyone else
developing
> > client apps on top of the runtime? If so I would be very interested in
> > discussing the pros' and con's of this idea.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike E.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #16089 is a reply to message #15855]

Thu, 08 August 2002 01:08

Wayne Parrott

Messages: 84
Registered: July 2009

Member

There was a good discussion thread on this topic last week. Search the
eclipse.tools newsgroup with terms "Eclipse as environment for business
applications". The conclusion of the thread is yes.

Wayne Parrott
www.genuitec.com

"Mike Evans" <mme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aijtj5$jvg$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Hullo,
>
> Following a colleague's recommendation, I downloaded and used Eclipse as a
> Java IDE for close on three months (ironically, developing a Swing GUI)
> before I bothered to go to the website and find out how much more than a
> single IDE the Eclipse project aims to be.
>
> I have now enthusiastically taken up trying to develop my own plug-ins
> ('trying' being the operative word - I'm still an Eclipse newbie).
However
> I am not attempting to build further development functionality. Rather,
it
> appears to me that Eclipse is a perfect platform on which to build
'normal'
> end-user applications.
>
> Eclipse:
> 1. is modular through plugins (functionality) and perspectives (user
> interface);
> 2. is easily configurable;
> 3. has a decent "native" GUI which can be developed quickly using JFace;
> 4. is supported on pretty much any client OS;
> 5. has a friendly licence (the CPL) and developer community (judging from
> the newsgroups) ,
> 6. has an integrated development environment (!)
>
> Does anyone else think the same way? Or indeed is anyone else developing
> client apps on top of the runtime? If so I would be very interested in
> discussing the pros' and con's of this idea.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike E.
>
>
>
>

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #16101 is a reply to message #16089]

Thu, 08 August 2002 17:31

Mike Evans

Messages: 12
Registered: July 2009

Junior Member

Many thanks Wayne,

Found it. Had not searched the 'technology' group as one ought - there is a
great deal of confusion over the newsgroup names. There are further threads
as well. Ted Stockwell aired the idea of a newsgroup dedicated to business
applications development back in September last year - maybe it will happen
....

In the meantime you mention a paper "The Case for Using Eclipse Technology
in General Purpose Applications" by Todd Williams and Marc Erickson. Would
you know where this is to be published so I can keep an eye out.

Or if it needs a peer review ... ;-)

Finally I note with interest the JLense initiative
(http://jlense.sourceforge.net/) and will be having a look - I will be very
interested to understand why they opt for a Swing solution developed through
Eclipse.

Reagrds,

Mike E.

"Wayne Parrott" <wayne@genuitec.com> wrote in message
news:aisg56$o8o$1@rogue.oti.com...
> There was a good discussion thread on this topic last week. Search the
> eclipse.tools newsgroup with terms "Eclipse as environment for business
> applications". The conclusion of the thread is yes.
>
> Wayne Parrott
> www.genuitec.com
>
> "Mike Evans" <mme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:aijtj5$jvg$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > Hullo,
> >
> > Following a colleague's recommendation, I downloaded and used Eclipse as
a
> > Java IDE for close on three months (ironically, developing a Swing GUI)
> > before I bothered to go to the website and find out how much more than a
> > single IDE the Eclipse project aims to be.
> >
> > I have now enthusiastically taken up trying to develop my own plug-ins
> > ('trying' being the operative word - I'm still an Eclipse newbie).
> However
> > I am not attempting to build further development functionality. Rather,
> it
> > appears to me that Eclipse is a perfect platform on which to build
> 'normal'
> > end-user applications.
> >
> > Eclipse:
> > 1. is modular through plugins (functionality) and perspectives (user
> > interface);
> > 2. is easily configurable;
> > 3. has a decent "native" GUI which can be developed quickly using JFace;
> > 4. is supported on pretty much any client OS;
> > 5. has a friendly licence (the CPL) and developer community (judging
from
> > the newsgroups) ,
> > 6. has an integrated development environment (!)
> >
> > Does anyone else think the same way? Or indeed is anyone else
developing
> > client apps on top of the runtime? If so I would be very interested in
> > discussing the pros' and con's of this idea.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike E.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #16109 is a reply to message #16089]

Thu, 08 August 2002 18:01

Jim Sculley

Messages: 17
Registered: July 2009

Junior Member

Wayne Parrott wrote:
> There was a good discussion thread on this topic last week. Search the
> eclipse.tools newsgroup with terms "Eclipse as environment for business
> applications". The conclusion of the thread is yes.

With caveats for applications that have certain internationalization
requirements.

Jim S.

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Re: Eclipse as a client platform [message #16883 is a reply to message #16109]

Thu, 08 August 2002 21:21

Wayne Parrott

Messages: 84
Registered: July 2009

Member

Agree.

Wayne

"Jim Sculley" <niceguy@abraxis.com> wrote in message
news:aiubr3$o5i$2@rogue.oti.com...
> Wayne Parrott wrote:
> > There was a good discussion thread on this topic last week. Search the
> > eclipse.tools newsgroup with terms "Eclipse as environment for business
> > applications". The conclusion of the thread is yes.
>
> With caveats for applications that have certain internationalization
> requirements.
>
> Jim S.
>
>

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