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wdte.sourceforge.net request submitted [message #14998]

Thu, 22 January 2004 16:30

Eclipse User

New Projects Pending Review

* Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
2004-01-22 16:29)

Your Registration

UNIX name: wdte

Descriptive name: Web Development Tools for Eclipse

License: Common Public License

Public description: A collaborative effort to merge some of the separate
projects that develop Eclipse plugins related to web development into one
bigger project.

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net request submitted [message #15000 is a reply to message #14998]

Thu, 22 January 2004 16:54

Eclipse User

Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> New Projects Pending Review
>
> * Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
> 2004-01-22 16:29)
>
> Your Registration
>
> UNIX name: wdte
>
> Descriptive name: Web Development Tools for Eclipse
>
> License: Common Public License
>
> Public description: A collaborative effort to merge some of the separate
> projects that develop Eclipse plugins related to web development into one
> bigger project.

Okay, cool. I suggest that as soon as the project has been created, you
add a wdte-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list, and we move any
further discussion about the project there ASAP.

Cheers,
Chris
--
cmlenz at gmx.de

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net request submitted [message #15001 is a reply to message #15000]

Thu, 22 January 2004 16:58

Eclipse User

Christopher Lenz wrote:

> Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> > New Projects Pending Review
> >
> > * Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
> > 2004-01-22 16:29)

> Okay, cool. I suggest that as soon as the project has been created, you
> add a wdte-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list, and we move any
> further discussion about the project there ASAP.

Um, better idea, I'll just add you as an admin and YOU can create the
list. I never did figure out their list managment system.

Too freakin' lazy, that's my problem.

--
Alex

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net request submitted [message #15099 is a reply to message #15001]

Thu, 22 January 2004 17:48

Eclipse User

Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Christopher Lenz wrote:
>>Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>New Projects Pending Review
>>>
>>> * Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
>>>2004-01-22 16:29)
>
>>Okay, cool. I suggest that as soon as the project has been created, you
>>add a wdte-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailing list, and we move any
>>further discussion about the project there ASAP.
>
> Um, better idea, I'll just add you as an admin and YOU can create the
> list. I never did figure out their list managment system.

No problem. As I've said before, I've just been through all this for
csseditor.sf.net.

Cheers,
Chris
--
cmlenz at gmx.de

wdte.sourceforge.net - Conventions and Guidelines [message #15107 is a reply to message #14998]

Thu, 22 January 2004 17:47

Eclipse User

Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> New Projects Pending Review
>
> * Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
> 2004-01-22 16:29)

Lets agree on Conventions and Guidelines too while waiting for project
registration...

I propose conventions from eclipse.org with added some missed stuff.
See example at http://solareclipse.sourceforge.net/conventions.html
with any ocurences of "solareclipse" replaced by "wdte".

And what do you think about naming packages starting from "net.sf.wdte".
From my expirience this short naming scheme is much more handy for eyes
than long "net.sourceforge.wdte.<deep.package.tree>" alternative. Since
SourceForge owns both names - sourceforge.net and sf.net we have full
rights to use acronym here.

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net - Conventions and Guidelines [message #15285 is a reply to message #15107]

Fri, 23 January 2004 06:26

Eclipse User

Igor Malinin wrote:

> Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>> New Projects Pending Review
>>
>> * Web Development Tools for Eclipse (UNIX name: wdte, registered
>> 2004-01-22 16:29)
>
>
> Lets agree on Conventions and Guidelines too while waiting for project
> registration...
>
> I propose conventions from eclipse.org with added some missed stuff.
> See example at http://solareclipse.sourceforge.net/conventions.html
> with any ocurences of "solareclipse" replaced by "wdte".

Well, I'm okay with all of the rules except for the use of tabs. I'd
very much prefer to use 4 spaces for indentation. The use of tabs often
creates problems in collaborative projects where you have no control
over the tools used by each contributor and their configuration, and
you'll often need to change the default settings of various tools just
to display a file with the intended indentation.

Okay, normally this is where the tabs and curly braces war begins. Let's
not get into that. I just wanted to state my preference for no-tabs, but
I'm not going to make that a showstopper if everyone else thinks tab are
a great idea.

> And what do you think about naming packages starting from "net.sf.wdte".
> From my expirience this short naming scheme is much more handy for eyes
> than long "net.sourceforge.wdte.<deep.package.tree>" alternative. Since
> SourceForge owns both names - sourceforge.net and sf.net we have full
> rights to use acronym here.

I'm okay with that convention.

Cheers,
Chris
--
cmlenz at gmx.de

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net - Conventions and Guidelines [message #15319 is a reply to message #15285]

Fri, 23 January 2004 07:12

Eclipse User

Christopher Lenz wrote:
> Well, I'm okay with all of the rules except for the use of tabs. I'd
> very much prefer to use 4 spaces for indentation. The use of tabs often
> creates problems in collaborative projects where you have no control
> over the tools used by each contributor and their configuration, and
> you'll often need to change the default settings of various tools just
> to display a file with the intended indentation.

We require all contributors to use either spaces or tabs. Problems came
only when both conventions are mixed. And any contributor should change
their tool defaults to what we agree independent on what we choose.

> Okay, normally this is where the tabs and curly braces war begins. Let's
> not get into that. I just wanted to state my preference for no-tabs, but
> I'm not going to make that a showstopper if everyone else thinks tab are
> a great idea.

My personal preference is tabs, but I will be ok with anything we agree
on, just anyone should use same conventions.

Another argument for tabs is that tabs is the default preference in
Eclipse and eclipse.org itself uses this (undocumented) convention. And
I would like to follow eclipse.org conventions as much as possible.

And this guide might be useful for WDTE project too:
http://solareclipse.sourceforge.net/devenv.html

It is a quich check-list of what preferences should be set in Eclipse.
It should be revisited because it quite old and Eclipse has new features
now, especially new compiler warnings, which I like to be enabled as well.

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net - Conventions and Guidelines [message #15383 is a reply to message #15319]

Fri, 23 January 2004 08:26

Eclipse User

Igor Malinin wrote:
> Christopher Lenz wrote:
> My personal preference is tabs, but I will be ok with anything we agree
> on, just anyone should use same conventions.
>
> Another argument for tabs is that tabs is the default preference in
> Eclipse and eclipse.org itself uses this (undocumented) convention. And
> I would like to follow eclipse.org conventions as much as possible.

Okay, these actually are pretty good reasons. I wasn't aware of the
Eclipse.org projects using tabs. Let's go with tabs then.

> And this guide might be useful for WDTE project too:
> http://solareclipse.sourceforge.net/devenv.html
>
> It is a quich check-list of what preferences should be set in Eclipse.
> It should be revisited because it quite old and Eclipse has new features
> now, especially new compiler warnings, which I like to be enabled as well.

Agreed. I think it's a good idea to migrate some content from the
solareclipse site.

Cheers,
Chris
--
cmlenz at gmx.de

Re: wdte.sourceforge.net - Conventions and Guidelines [message #15514 is a reply to message #15383]

Fri, 23 January 2004 17:55

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ed.burnette.REMOVE.THIS.sas.com

It'd be nice if JDT's reformatting could be used at any time without
worrying about introducing spurious changes. Probably the easiest thing to
do would be to use all the default settings unless there were one or two
exceptions that could be agreed on.

--
Ed

"Christopher Lenz" <cmlenz@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:bur720$s26$1@eclipse.org...
> Agreed. I think it's a good idea to migrate some content from the
> solareclipse site.

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