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| ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #158230] |
Tue, 18 November 2003 09:35  |
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Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
Visual Editor Project!
The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
- Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
- A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
What's here today?
Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code base
that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere Application
Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM, Instantiations,
and Red Hat along with any of you who want to contribute will be working
together to add first-class SWT support in the coming months.
So where's the goods?
Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
home page!
Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today or
tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me they're
swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might like.)
Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging out on
eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time being.
I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can do
together!
Best regards,
Dave Orme
Visual Editor Project lead
Chief architect of SWTworkbench
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #158547 is a reply to message #158230] |
Tue, 18 November 2003 19:16  |
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That is very interesting and long awaited functionality.
What are the plans to run VEP, GEF and Webtools on Eclipse 3.0?
For GEF it is probably not an issue, just a matter of changing
required version of platform in plugin manifest, but I was not able to
run VEP on 3.0.
regards,
Eugene
David J. Orme wrote:
> Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
> Visual Editor Project!
>
> The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
>
> - Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
>
> - A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
> favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
> enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
> Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
>
> What's here today?
>
> Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code base
> that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere Application
> Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM, Instantiations,
> and Red Hat along with any of you who want to contribute will be working
> together to add first-class SWT support in the coming months.
>
> So where's the goods?
>
> Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
> home page!
>
> Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
>
>
> The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today or
> tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me they're
> swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might like.)
> Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging out on
> eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time being.
>
> I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can do
> together!
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dave Orme
> Visual Editor Project lead
> Chief architect of SWTworkbench
>
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #158849 is a reply to message #158547] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 07:09 |
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Originally posted by: mendelgili.netscape.net
The next VE release (1.0.0) will be based on Eclipse 3.x.
Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
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> That is very interesting and long awaited functionality.
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> What are the plans to run VEP, GEF and Webtools on Eclipse 3.0?
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> For GEF it is probably not an issue, just a matter of changing
> required version of platform in plugin manifest, but I was not able to
> run VEP on 3.0.
>
> regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> David J. Orme wrote:
>
>> Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
>> Visual Editor Project!
>>
>> The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
>>
>> - Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
>>
>> - A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
>> favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
>> enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
>> Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
>>
>> What's here today?
>>
>> Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code
>> base that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere
>> Application Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM,
>> Instantiations, and Red Hat along with any of you who want to
>> contribute will be working together to add first-class SWT support in
>> the coming months.
>>
>> So where's the goods?
>>
>> Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
>> home page!
>>
>> Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
>>
>>
>> The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today or
>> tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me
>> they're swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might
>> like.) Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging out
>> on eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time being.
>>
>> I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can
>> do together!
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Dave Orme
>> Visual Editor Project lead
>> Chief architect of SWTworkbench
>>
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #158896 is a reply to message #158230] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 08:38 |
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Wow, and it works like a charm. Now I wonder why we purchased WSAD.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:35:31 -0600, "David J. Orme"
<daveo@asc-iseries.com> wrote:
>Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
>Visual Editor Project!
>
>The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
>
>- Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
>
>- A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
>favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
>enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
>Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
>
>What's here today?
>
>Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code base
>that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere Application
>Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM, Instantiations,
>and Red Hat along with any of you who want to contribute will be working
>together to add first-class SWT support in the coming months.
>
>So where's the goods?
>
>Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
>home page!
>
>Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
>
>The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today or
>tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me they're
>swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might like.)
>Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging out on
>eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time being.
>
>I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can do
>together!
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Dave Orme
>Visual Editor Project lead
>Chief architect of SWTworkbench
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #158943 is a reply to message #158896] |
Wed, 19 November 2003 10:10 |
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Originally posted by: palistra.us.ibm.com
Well, WSSD had the VEJ so hopefully you are using the EJB tools or the
performance profiling tools that are specific to WSAD. :-)
Tom wrote:
> Wow, and it works like a charm. Now I wonder why we purchased WSAD.
>
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> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 08:35:31 -0600, "David J. Orme"
> <daveo@asc-iseries.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
>>Visual Editor Project!
>>
>>The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
>>
>>- Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
>>
>>- A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
>>favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
>>enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
>>Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
>>
>>What's here today?
>>
>>Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code base
>>that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere Application
>>Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM, Instantiations,
>>and Red Hat along with any of you who want to contribute will be working
>>together to add first-class SWT support in the coming months.
>>
>>So where's the goods?
>>
>>Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
>>home page!
>>
>>Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
>>
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
>>
>>The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today or
>>tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me they're
>>swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might like.)
>>Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging out on
>>eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time being.
>>
>>I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can do
>>together!
>>
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Dave Orme
>>Visual Editor Project lead
>>Chief architect of SWTworkbench
>
>
--
Jim Palistrant
IBM Worldwide Technical Consultant - WebSphere Development Tools
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #159566 is a reply to message #158849] |
Thu, 20 November 2003 12:24 |
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What release is swt support targeted for?
Gili Mendel wrote:
> The next VE release (1.0.0) will be based on Eclipse 3.x.
>
> Eugene Kuleshov wrote:
>
>>
>> That is very interesting and long awaited functionality.
>>
>> What are the plans to run VEP, GEF and Webtools on Eclipse 3.0?
>>
>> For GEF it is probably not an issue, just a matter of changing
>> required version of platform in plugin manifest, but I was not able to
>> run VEP on 3.0.
>>
>> regards,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>> David J. Orme wrote:
>>
>>> Today I'm pleased to announce Eclipse's creation of the long-awated
>>> Visual Editor Project!
>>>
>>> The Visual Editor Project will be two things:
>>>
>>> - Reference GUI builder implementations for Swing *and* sWT.
>>>
>>> - A framework making it easier to create new GUI builders for your
>>> favorite language and widget set. Or just to create GUI builder
>>> enhancements for your favorite Swing or SWT features. Prefer C/C++?
>>> Help us add C/C++ support and you've got it.
>>>
>>> What's here today?
>>>
>>> Today we've delivered first-class Swing support based upon the code
>>> base that has previously only been available to IBM Websphere
>>> Application Developer customers. Advanced Systems Concepts, IBM,
>>> Instantiations, and Red Hat along with any of you who want to
>>> contribute will be working together to add first-class SWT support in
>>> the coming months.
>>>
>>> So where's the goods?
>>>
>>> Just click on over to http://www.eclipse.org/vep to visit our project
>>> home page!
>>>
>>> Or if you want to read the formal announcement, it's at
>>>
>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/indextools.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E /vep-home/WebContent/PRGUIBuilder.final.html
>>>
>>>
>>> The project newsgroup and mailing list should appear sometime today
>>> or tomorrow in the usual places. (The Eclipse infra team tells me
>>> they're swamped so they might not get to it as quickly as they might
>>> like.) Until the newsgroup/mailing list are live, we'll be hanging
>>> out on eclipse.platform, so you can ask questions there for the time
>>> being.
>>>
>>> I Look forward to seeing you there and I'm excited about what we can
>>> do together!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Dave Orme
>>> Visual Editor Project lead
>>> Chief architect of SWTworkbench
>>>
>>
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #159860 is a reply to message #159332] |
Thu, 20 November 2003 22:18 |
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Stefan Matthias Aust wrote:
> David J. Orme wrote:
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>> The more people helping us with the testing/debugging of the current
>> version, the faster we can get going on the Eclipse 3.0 and SWT support.
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> From my point of view, 3.0 support is more important than SWT support.
I agree. But we really want to stabilize on 2.1 first. Not everybody
works with the bleeding edge. :-)
> I already own the Instantiations SWT Designer (which runs on 3.0M4) so
> I don't really need another SWT designer as much as I'd like to develop
> Swing GUIs with Eclipse 3.0 :)
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>> If you're interested, I'm sure Gili will make an announcement about
>> the next test iteration soon over on eclipse.ve. ;-)
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> I'll monitor that news group and I'll try to help as much as possible.
> If I'd now more about the interna of Editors, Documents and Working
> Copies I'd probably already have tried to work around that
> NullPointerException...
Awesome! Look forward to seeing you around.
BTW, I personally found the book, /The Java Developer's Guide to
Eclipse/ to be an invaluable resource when learning about editors,
documents, working copies, and other sometimes arcane but useful Eclipse
internals. It's basically my roadmap to Eclipse plug-in development.
I can't speak to the other two books out because I haven't read them.
Regards,
Dave
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #159868 is a reply to message #159566] |
Thu, 20 November 2003 22:28 |
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David Rocks wrote:
> What release is swt support targeted for?
I don't know that we have a version number assigned yet, but right now
we're shooting for end of Q2 2004.
Of course this is all subject to change. We're merging our release
schedule with Eclipse's and we don't yet know what Eclipse's release
schedule will look like after 3.0. So, the upshot is that it'll be
ready when it's ready, yada yada yada. :-)
We have some really outstanding people already on the team with lots of
SWT and general GUI builder writing experience, so I have a lot of
confidence. On the other hand, since we're open source now, so our only
deadlines are self-imposed and the more people we've got helping, the
faster the work goes, etc...
Best Regards,
Dave
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #160116 is a reply to message #159868] |
Fri, 21 November 2003 10:05 |
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Originally posted by: rsk.email.arizona.edu
While it "seems" that the dealines are self-imposed, they are actually
directly proportional to how loudly we piss and moan on this newsgroup
:) (kidding)
Dave thanks again for the amazing piece of software. Also whoever put
the viewlet together did a fantastic job really show casing the
functionality.
David J. Orme wrote:
> David Rocks wrote:
>
>> What release is swt support targeted for?
>
>
> I don't know that we have a version number assigned yet, but right now
> we're shooting for end of Q2 2004.
>
> Of course this is all subject to change. We're merging our release
> schedule with Eclipse's and we don't yet know what Eclipse's release
> schedule will look like after 3.0. So, the upshot is that it'll be
> ready when it's ready, yada yada yada. :-)
>
> We have some really outstanding people already on the team with lots of
> SWT and general GUI builder writing experience, so I have a lot of
> confidence. On the other hand, since we're open source now, so our only
> deadlines are self-imposed and the more people we've got helping, the
> faster the work goes, etc...
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dave
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| Re: ANN: New Visual Editor Project [message #161924 is a reply to message #161916] |
Tue, 25 November 2003 21:59 |
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David J. Orme wrote:
> Dale King wrote:
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>> "Valentino Kyriakides" <vkyr@nospam-ision.net> wrote in message
>> news:bpg4hs$hiu$1@eclipse.org...
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>>> "Gili Mendel" <mendelgili@netscape.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>> news:3FBB5D73.7070707@netscape.net...
>>>
>>>> The next VE release (1.0.0) will be based on Eclipse 3.x.
>>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, very nice made viewlet demo I liked it much!
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>> You might want to have a web page you go to before going to the
>> viewlet demo
>> to let you know that is actually what it is.
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> I believe this exists already in the "Documents" link off of the home
> page. Am I incorrect here?
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>> I clicked on it on my lap top
>> which has the sound turned off and was very confused when I got a
>> picture of
>> the VE home page. And also you should open it in a new page without the
>> Eclipse frame. On my laptop I could not see the entire graphic due to the
>> frame.
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> Added Bug 47483 requesting this.
It's fixed already; closing bug. :-)
(Nice work, Gili)
Dave
--
Dave Orme
Eclipse Visual Editor Project Lead
Advanced Systems Concepts' Chief Architect
http://www.swtworkbench.com
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