|Re: Eclipse stability [message #989917 is a reply to message #988457]
||Mon, 10 December 2012 02:03
| a platypus
Registered: December 2012
I'd like to add a short comment. Firstly Extreme Java's contribution is valid the specific queries will be more efficiently resolved/discussed in specific forums.
That said, I too would like to see a more robust Eclipse platform. My motives are simple -- Eclipse is EXACTLY the kind of tooling you want 'everyperson' to access.
My experience to date would not lead me to recommend Eclipse to my historian brother. My experience so far doesn't suggest that eclipse is entirely stable for everyday use by the non-technical majority.
Case in point. At some stage the WindowBuilder Pro add-in stopped working on Juno. Experiments demonstrated that WindowBuilder was working on a clean Juno install, but it was failing on the supposedly up-to-date development platform I was working on. That error came up about August 2012. Very few people can just sit about if a key element of the development tool set fails. It just isn't practical.
For me I had commitments and other things to do. It was only this last week when I had more slack time to look at the challenge that we even determined that WindowBuilder IS working.
The problem logically then is the Eclipse installation with updates, plugins and add-ons I was running. I'm wiped Ecliped (circa august) and reloaded WindowBuilder.
I'm left with many challenging questions about robustness, tracking down conflict and compatibilities. In the wild, I think there needs to be some tools investigated to let 'average' users manage their add-ins, configurations, etc. I was disappointed to find the [Revert] function can cause more problems than it might promise to address.
On the bigger stage, I think the idea of OSGi is a bit too powerful and needs some helper tools to moderate things as a multi-bundle platform such as Eclipse brings in new modules. You can't expect bundle developers to 'know' about every available bundle or new bundles not yet developed. The best thing in my opinion is for a 'management' and 'administration' arm to assist when things get mixed-in or when mysteries manifest.
I trust there will be some sober consideration of these points. Perhpas others are aware of initiatives along the lines I'm encouraging for a robust, 'comfortable' Eclipse.
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