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| BIRT and Advanced Reporting [message #12107] |
Wed, 02 March 2005 03:39  |
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Originally posted by: abc.abc.com
I realise its early days and that this question may be a bit premature but
does the BIRT project have a Road Map and if so does it cover the following
areas:
- ETL
- Data Mining (OLAP, Decision Trees, Anomoloy Detection etc)
- Advanced Data Visualisation (Dashboards, Interactive Charting, Balanced
Scorecards)
Regards Mike Kimber
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| Re: BIRT and Advanced Reporting [message #14267 is a reply to message #13140] |
Fri, 04 March 2005 18:00  |
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Mike,
As you will have seen from the "Project Description and Scope" and
"Project Plan Summary" pages that can be accessed from the link that
Nigel posted, the broader scope of the BIRT project is to provide
business intelligence capabilities beyond what we are doing in this
initial phase around operational reporting.
Our experience is that many applications need a range of complementary
business intelligence capabilities -- from standard reporting, through
ad hoc reporting, through analytics. This potentially includes the items
you highlight around Data Mining and advanced data visualization. As the
BIRT PMC, we aim to foster the creation of capabilities in these areas
in the open source community -- and to do so in such a way that there is
strong interoperability between each technology. Image a scenario where
a developer can incorporate a range of complementary, integrated,
capabilities into their applications that address common BI needs --
that is the vision.
Right now, we are focusing on the standard reporting piece. We are
actively looking for and encouraging other organizations to submit
proposals to the PMC to address and staff other aspects of the BI space
under the Eclipse BIRT umbrella.
Regarding ETL -- this one is interesting with the formation of the Data
Tools Project (DTP). ETL potentially falls into the domain of DTP, and
this probably makes most sense. As the DTP team gets more feedback on
their proposal, we'll probably see things get more concrete here.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Paul Clenahan
BIRT PMC
Nigel Cook wrote:
> Michael Kimber wrote:
>
>> I realise its early days and that this question may be a bit premature
>> but does the BIRT project have a Road Map and if so does it cover the
>> following areas:
>>
>> - ETL
>> - Data Mining (OLAP, Decision Trees, Anomoloy Detection etc)
>> - Advanced Data Visualisation (Dashboards, Interactive Charting,
>> Balanced Scorecards)
>>
>> Regards Mike Kimber
>>
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> Mike,
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> I think this may be the page you're looking for -- it's not immediately
> obvious how to find it.
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/birt/index.php?page=project
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> http://www.eclipse.org/birt/ -> Select 'Project' from left table.
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> Nigel
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| Re: BIRT and Advanced Reporting [message #18458 is a reply to message #14267] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 06:25 |
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Originally posted by: michael_kimber.NOSPAM.lagan.com
Peter, Nigel,
Thank you for your responses. I have read the "Project Description and
Scope" and been through the DTP proposal and Newsgroup posts.
I will "badger" the DTP group with regard to ETL.
It looks like advanced tools for BI are slated for Phase 3 of the BIRT,
so a way of. If you believe it will be of any help I am happy to be
involved in the definition/ideas stage. In between time we are currently
looking at in the Advanced BI space:
• Data Visualization (batik SVG, JfreeChart, Jgraph, Lazlo, BIRT Chart
Engine, BSPG)
• OLAP (Mondrian jPivot).
• Data Mining (XELOPES Library).
With regard to the BIRT PMC vision:
"Imagine a scenario where a developer can incorporate a range of
complementary, integrated, capabilities into their applications that
address common BI needs that is the vision."
Sad as it is, I think about this every day. I personally believe that
the ability to integrate advanced BI tools such as OLAP, Data mining and
Visualization into an application or Service Orientated Architecture
will potentially move these technologies out of niche areas. This in
turn will allow organizations to become proactive in both the short and
long term with regard to the running of the Business Process that drive
there business.
If this can be achieved with a set of standard XML definitions, then
this would be great as it would allow us as an organization to provide a
defined upgrade path from our very specific implementation to an
enterprise implementation.
Hope this helps explain where I’m coming from. Again if you need any
help on defining the scope or reviewing this phase of the project please
let me know.
Regards Mike Kimber
Paul Clenahan wrote:
> Mike,
>
> As you will have seen from the "Project Description and Scope" and
> "Project Plan Summary" pages that can be accessed from the link that
> Nigel posted, the broader scope of the BIRT project is to provide
> business intelligence capabilities beyond what we are doing in this
> initial phase around operational reporting.
>
> Our experience is that many applications need a range of complementary
> business intelligence capabilities -- from standard reporting, through
> ad hoc reporting, through analytics. This potentially includes the items
> you highlight around Data Mining and advanced data visualization. As the
> BIRT PMC, we aim to foster the creation of capabilities in these areas
> in the open source community -- and to do so in such a way that there is
> strong interoperability between each technology. Image a scenario where
> a developer can incorporate a range of complementary, integrated,
> capabilities into their applications that address common BI needs --
> that is the vision.
>
> Right now, we are focusing on the standard reporting piece. We are
> actively looking for and encouraging other organizations to submit
> proposals to the PMC to address and staff other aspects of the BI space
> under the Eclipse BIRT umbrella.
>
> Regarding ETL -- this one is interesting with the formation of the Data
> Tools Project (DTP). ETL potentially falls into the domain of DTP, and
> this probably makes most sense. As the DTP team gets more feedback on
> their proposal, we'll probably see things get more concrete here.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul Clenahan
> BIRT PMC
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> Nigel Cook wrote:
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>> Michael Kimber wrote:
>>
>>> I realise its early days and that this question may be a bit
>>> premature but does the BIRT project have a Road Map and if so does it
>>> cover the following areas:
>>>
>>> - ETL
>>> - Data Mining (OLAP, Decision Trees, Anomoloy Detection etc)
>>> - Advanced Data Visualisation (Dashboards, Interactive Charting,
>>> Balanced Scorecards)
>>>
>>> Regards Mike Kimber
>>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I think this may be the page you're looking for -- it's not immediately
>> obvious how to find it.
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/birt/index.php?page=project
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/birt/ -> Select 'Project' from left table.
>>
>> Nigel
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