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[EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #129578] Tue, 09 September 2008 12:02 Go to next message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
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Hi developers,

I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two) models it was created from?
(I am interested in it because I am working on something similar)
Thanks for any information!

[1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare


Best regards
Patrick
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #129585 is a reply to message #129578] Tue, 09 September 2008 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cedric Brun is currently offline Cedric BrunFriend
Messages: 431
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Hi Patrick,

The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model (just as a patch in the text world).

You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy mode").

As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to detect conflicts between changesets.

Cédric


Patrick Könemann wrote:

> Hi developers,
>
> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two) models it
> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on something
> similar) Thanks for any information!
>
> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>
>
> Best regards
> Patrick


http://cedric.brun.io news and articles on eclipse and eclipse modeling.
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #129589 is a reply to message #129585] Tue, 09 September 2008 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Cédric,

thank you for your reply.
I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of the Enterprise Architect [2].
Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.

Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?


Patrick


[1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf (Master's thesis, in German)

[2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/



Cédric Brun wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model (just as a patch in the text world).
>
> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy mode").
>
> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to detect conflicts between changesets.
>
> Cédric
>
>
> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>
>> Hi developers,
>>
>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two) models it
>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on something
>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Patrick
>
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #129693 is a reply to message #129589] Tue, 16 September 2008 16:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi all,

Just for anyone who is interested: I have set up a blog in which I will document my work on model-independent diffs. It already contains some of my thoughts. :)

http://paphko.de/diff

Best regards
Patrick


Patrick Könemann wrote:
> Hi Cédric,
>
> thank you for your reply.
> I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model
> independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of
> the Enterprise Architect [2].
> Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably
> based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.
>
> Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> [1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
> http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf
> (Master's thesis, in German)
>
> [2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/
>
>
>
> Cédric Brun wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not
>> start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model
>> capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model
>> (just as a patch in the text world).
>>
>> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed
>> in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy
>> mode").
>>
>> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature
>> with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now
>> we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd
>> candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to
>> detect conflicts between changesets.
>>
>> Cédric
>>
>>
>> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi developers,
>>>
>>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two)
>>> models it
>>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on
>>> something
>>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Patrick
>>
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #130147 is a reply to message #129693] Tue, 14 October 2008 08:25 Go to previous message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi all,

The ideas for model-independent diffs are roughly complete.
Any comments are welcome ;-)
http://paphko.de/diff/metamodel.html

Cheers
Patrick


Patrick Könemann wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just for anyone who is interested: I have set up a blog in which I will
> document my work on model-independent diffs. It already contains some of
> my thoughts. :)
>
> http://paphko.de/diff
>
> Best regards
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>> Hi Cédric,
>>
>> thank you for your reply.
>> I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model
>> independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of
>> the Enterprise Architect [2].
>> Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably
>> based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.
>>
>> Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> [1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
>> http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf
>> (Master's thesis, in German)
>>
>> [2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Cédric Brun wrote:
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not
>>> start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model
>>> capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model
>>> (just as a patch in the text world).
>>>
>>> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed
>>> in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy
>>> mode").
>>>
>>> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature
>>> with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now
>>> we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd
>>> candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to
>>> detect conflicts between changesets.
>>>
>>> Cédric
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi developers,
>>>>
>>>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>>>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>>>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two)
>>>> models it
>>>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on
>>>> something
>>>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Patrick
>>>
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #620303 is a reply to message #129578] Tue, 09 September 2008 12:38 Go to previous message
Cedric Brun is currently offline Cedric BrunFriend
Messages: 431
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Patrick,

The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model (just as a patch in the text world).

You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy mode").

As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to detect conflicts between changesets.

Cédric


Patrick Könemann wrote:

> Hi developers,
>
> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two) models it
> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on something
> similar) Thanks for any information!
>
> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>
>
> Best regards
> Patrick


http://cedric.brun.io news and articles on eclipse and eclipse modeling.
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #620304 is a reply to message #129585] Tue, 09 September 2008 13:17 Go to previous message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Cédric,

thank you for your reply.
I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of the Enterprise Architect [2].
Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.

Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?


Patrick


[1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf (Master's thesis, in German)

[2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/



Cédric Brun wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model (just as a patch in the text world).
>
> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy mode").
>
> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to detect conflicts between changesets.
>
> Cédric
>
>
> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>
>> Hi developers,
>>
>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two) models it
>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on something
>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Patrick
>
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #620310 is a reply to message #129589] Tue, 16 September 2008 16:12 Go to previous message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi all,

Just for anyone who is interested: I have set up a blog in which I will document my work on model-independent diffs. It already contains some of my thoughts. :)

http://paphko.de/diff

Best regards
Patrick


Patrick Könemann wrote:
> Hi Cédric,
>
> thank you for your reply.
> I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model
> independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of
> the Enterprise Architect [2].
> Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably
> based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.
>
> Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> [1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
> http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf
> (Master's thesis, in German)
>
> [2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/
>
>
>
> Cédric Brun wrote:
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not
>> start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model
>> capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model
>> (just as a patch in the text world).
>>
>> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed
>> in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy
>> mode").
>>
>> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature
>> with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now
>> we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd
>> candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to
>> detect conflicts between changesets.
>>
>> Cédric
>>
>>
>> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi developers,
>>>
>>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two)
>>> models it
>>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on
>>> something
>>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Patrick
>>
Re: [EMF Compare] Infos about the planned "patch/changeset model" feature? [message #620346 is a reply to message #129693] Tue, 14 October 2008 08:25 Go to previous message
Patrick Konemann is currently offline Patrick KonemannFriend
Messages: 116
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi all,

The ideas for model-independent diffs are roughly complete.
Any comments are welcome ;-)
http://paphko.de/diff/metamodel.html

Cheers
Patrick


Patrick Könemann wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just for anyone who is interested: I have set up a blog in which I will
> document my work on model-independent diffs. It already contains some of
> my thoughts. :)
>
> http://paphko.de/diff
>
> Best regards
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>> Hi Cédric,
>>
>> thank you for your reply.
>> I have already developed and implemented concepts for a model
>> independent delta [1], but it was only specific for the meta model of
>> the Enterprise Architect [2].
>> Now I would like to generalize it for arbitrary EMF models, probably
>> based on an EMF Compare diffmodel.
>>
>> Do you have any references to the work from Aquila University?
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> [1] http://paphko.de/ea/ (Tool description and download)
>> http://web15.rom186.server4you.de/ea/Documents/Diplomarbeit. pdf
>> (Master's thesis, in German)
>>
>> [2] http://www.sparxsystems.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> Cédric Brun wrote:
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> The work on this feature is planned for the 1.0 release but did not
>>> start yet. The goal is to get a self contained and independent model
>>> capturing the changes and you might want to apply on another model
>>> (just as a patch in the text world).
>>>
>>> You should be able to apply this changeset even if the model changed
>>> in the meantime (once again, just as the text patchs and the "fuzzy
>>> mode").
>>>
>>> As we did not started yet, feel free to have a try on this feature
>>> with your solution, we could integrate it in the component. Right now
>>> we've only studied solutions designed by an Aquila University Phd
>>> candidate for such a model and the corresponding transformations to
>>> detect conflicts between changesets.
>>>
>>> Cédric
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Könemann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi developers,
>>>>
>>>> I am curious - I read in the wiki [1] that a patch/changeset model is
>>>> planned for release 1.0. Is there more detailed information available?
>>>> Will such a changeset or patch model be independent of the (two)
>>>> models it
>>>> was created from? (I am interested in it because I am working on
>>>> something
>>>> similar) Thanks for any information!
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/EMF_Compare
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Patrick
>>>
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