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No console output in IDE with Java [message #121325]

Fri, 02 December 2005 11:58

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: sascha.mantscheff.net

I have a small java test program saying "Hello world" to the console using
System.out.println. It works from the command line, but in the IDE the
console stays empty and says "A console is not available."
There has been console output from a prior version of this program, but I
cannot restore its behaviour. Quite awkward for debugging. Also the
exceptions which print the stack are not written to the IDE console, but
to a command line console if started from there.
Can anyone point me to the configuration item which I seem to be missing?
Or is this a bug?

Re: No console output in IDE with Java [message #121346 is a reply to message #121325]

Fri, 02 December 2005 13:43

Eclipse User

Back on 10/12 there was a thread titled "A console is not available" ...
you might want to go read that thread and see if what helped him helps
you. If so, then I'd file a bugzilla, as it seems worthwhile for someone
to track down what you two have in common that is affecting this
behavior... obviously most of us have no problem seeing "hello world"
output on our consoles...
--
RDS

Sascha Mantscheff wrote:
> I have a small java test program saying "Hello world" to the console
> using System.out.println. It works from the command line, but in the IDE
> the console stays empty and says "A console is not available."
> There has been console output from a prior version of this program, but
> I cannot restore its behaviour. Quite awkward for debugging. Also the
> exceptions which print the stack are not written to the IDE console, but
> to a command line console if started from there.
> Can anyone point me to the configuration item which I seem to be
> missing? Or is this a bug?
>

Re: No console output in IDE with Java [message #121386 is a reply to message #121346]

Fri, 02 December 2005 18:01

Eclipse User

You're probably seeing this:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108321

HTH Kevin

Randy D. Smith wrote:
> Back on 10/12 there was a thread titled "A console is not available" ...
> you might want to go read that thread and see if what helped him helps
> you. If so, then I'd file a bugzilla, as it seems worthwhile for someone
> to track down what you two have in common that is affecting this
> behavior... obviously most of us have no problem seeing "hello world"
> output on our consoles...
> --
> RDS
>
>
> Sascha Mantscheff wrote:
>> I have a small java test program saying "Hello world" to the console
>> using System.out.println. It works from the command line, but in the
>> IDE the console stays empty and says "A console is not available."
>> There has been console output from a prior version of this program,
>> but I cannot restore its behaviour. Quite awkward for debugging. Also
>> the exceptions which print the stack are not written to the IDE
>> console, but to a command line console if started from there.
>> Can anyone point me to the configuration item which I seem to be
>> missing? Or is this a bug?
>>

Re: No console output in IDE with Java [message #121394 is a reply to message #121386]

Fri, 02 December 2005 18:44

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: sascha.mantscheff.net

Thanks for your input. I just hoped I might be wrong. As another user put
it:

"If brand new users of an app I wrote tended to encounter a bug within the
first thirty seconds after installation by doing exactly what they would
be expected to do, I'd consider it a bug worth fixing even if it weren't a
crasher."

So this is really a 30-second-bug. I always hoped to detect one I didn't
write myself. At least this ambition has been successful. Again, thanks
for your answers.

[This may sound harsh, but then consider all the hours spent on this bug,
and all the other hours spent on the non-trivial and obviously non
bug-free aspects of the Java classpath, and you would sound harsh, too. I
hate the thought that I might have to switch to a commercial IDE which
would be worse by definition.What is your experience: is it worthwile to
wait for a bugfix? [In a commercial environment it definitely would not.]]

Re: No console output in IDE with Java [message #121794 is a reply to message #121394]

Mon, 05 December 2005 11:56

Eclipse User

Sascha,
We do our best to address of the bugs and enhancement requests that come
our way, but our resources are limited. This particular bug is targetted
for 3.2, so it is one that we consider to be "worth fixing".
If this is a real blocker for you, the fastest way to get a fix into the
platform would be to submit a patch.
Kevin

Sascha Mantscheff wrote:
> Thanks for your input. I just hoped I might be wrong. As another user
> put it:
>
> "If brand new users of an app I wrote tended to encounter a bug within
> the first thirty seconds after installation by doing exactly what they
> would be expected to do, I'd consider it a bug worth fixing even if it
> weren't a crasher."
>
> So this is really a 30-second-bug. I always hoped to detect one I didn't
> write myself. At least this ambition has been successful. Again, thanks
> for your answers.
>
> [This may sound harsh, but then consider all the hours spent on this
> bug, and all the other hours spent on the non-trivial and obviously non
> bug-free aspects of the Java classpath, and you would sound harsh, too.
> I hate the thought that I might have to switch to a commercial IDE which
> would be worse by definition.What is your experience: is it worthwile to
> wait for a bugfix? [In a commercial environment it definitely would not.]]
>

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