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Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #878948]

Wed, 30 May 2012 08:55

Andy Gotz

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Hi,

I am an absolute newbie porting a DSL code generator project from Xpand to Xtend2. I have downloaded the Xtext distribution from itemis based on Eclipse 3.7.1. I see that the Xpand templates having an .xpt extension are not recognised by Xtext. How should I best go about porting these templates to Xtend2? Should I just rename them .xtend and then fix the errors eventually using the Xtend language features instead of the Xpand ones? Is there a porting guide I could read?

Thanks for any help you can give an absolute newbie ...

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #878968 is a reply to message #878948]

Wed, 30 May 2012 09:35

Christian Dietrich

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Hi,

there is no porting guide. from personal porting experience i can say:
- start with a new file foreach xpand file
- create a dispatch method for every define statements.

<<DEFINE xxx FOR YYY>>
...
<<ENDDEFINE>>

def dispatch xxx(YYY yyy) '''
...
'''

- migration might be tricky at some points but mostly it should be straigt forward
(depending on the metamodelcontributor you use)

Feels free to ask any questions.

~Christian

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #879707 is a reply to message #878948]

Thu, 31 May 2012 17:20

Karsten Thoms

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Hi Andy,

although Xpand and Xtend2 are rather close related, porting is a manual task. Attached PERL script does some of those conversions that can be decided half-automatically. However, the resulting file won't be fully compilable. The script is just meant to "preprocess" Xpand templates and convert them to something more closely to Xtend2, like converting DEFINE to def functions, removing "-" signs, converting FOR loops. It is required to know Xtend to fix the remaining.

Porting templates is just one side, you'll need also an according workflow. If using Xtext as models, the infrastructure is already there and a skeleton of a generator workflow is available. If using non-Xtext models, you can either code a workflow component yourself and file access, or reuse Xtext's infrastructure. I tend to use the latter, but it requires some setup of Guice.

Best wishes,
~Karsten

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #880534 is a reply to message #878968]

Sat, 02 June 2012 08:05

Andy Gotz

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Hi Christian,

thank you for your quick answer. This sounds relatively straightforward but I am stuck on the first line already:

«IMPORT pogoDsl»
«EXTENSION fr::esrf::tango::pogo::cpp::_CppConstants»
«EXTENSION fr::esrf::tango::pogo::cpp::_CppUtil»

How would I port this to Xtend? I have not understood how Xpand IMPORT relate to Xtend2 ...

Thanks

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #880540 is a reply to message #880534]

Sat, 02 June 2012 08:23

Christian Dietrich

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Hi,

i guess you should do some Xtend tutorial first.
this would tell you that Xtend in something like a better java

=> you create classes.
=> you import the FQN names of you Java!!!!! Metaclasses.
=> you use @Inject extension ExtensionClassName for extensions.

btw i think top down porting is a bad idea.

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #880552 is a reply to message #879707]

Sat, 02 June 2012 09:05

Andy Gotz

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Hi Karsten,

I just saw your message. Thanks for the perl script. It worked like a charm. Now we have some idea where to start the porting.

Where to find the com.atoss.ses.amf.oaw package? Do we need it? What does it provide?

We are using the manual workflow you helped us setup.

Thanks again

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #880553 is a reply to message #880540]

Sat, 02 June 2012 09:08

Andy Gotz

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Hi Christian,

I agree with your comments i.e. we should do the Xtend tutorial and not do topdown porting. We have a medium sized project based on Xpand which we are trying to modernise with Xtend2. We are trying to understand how by attacking it from all sides. The top down porting is part of this to find out what are the changes. But eventually we will need to do properly.

Thanks again for your help

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #880563 is a reply to message #880552]

Sat, 02 June 2012 09:39

Karsten Thoms

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The package is not interesting for you. It is from a customer project, where this script was initiated.

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #881085 is a reply to message #880563]

Sun, 03 June 2012 21:36

Andy Gotz

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Hi,

I have followed the tutorials and read the Xtext and Xtend documentation but to no avail. I still do not know how to port my project from Xpand to Xtext2. I have attached an example Xpand file. We have tens of these. I must be quite stupid or the documentation is not destined for beginners. It is very frustrating. I hope someone will write a good book on using this technology soon ...

Thanks anyway

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #881205 is a reply to message #881085]

Mon, 04 June 2012 06:03

Christian Dietrich

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Hmm

without telling anything what your actual problem is i can only guess.
so what is your problem?

~Christian

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #881571 is a reply to message #881205]

Mon, 04 June 2012 21:17

Andy Gotz

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Hi,

we have got over some of our problems and we have the beginning of a code generator.

Now I have a more precise question. In our grammar we have this field:

filestogenerate= STRING // File(s) to generate (code, makefile,....)

We are running the code generator with an mwe2 workflow.

My question: can I set this field in the model via the arguments of the workflow launch configuration - how?

Thanks

Andy

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Re: Porting Xpand to Xtend2 [message #881584 is a reply to message #881571]

Mon, 04 June 2012 21:49

Christian Dietrich

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Hi,

i am not quite sure what this question is targeting:
you want to maniplulate the model/do a m2m?
what about writing a custom workflow component for that.

~Christian

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