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Very exciting project :) [message #830] Sun, 27 August 2006 22:13 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: nicolas.bihan.free.fr

Hi,


I want to be sure. Are you talking about to build a web application with
our "old" RCP existing code ?

In that case RAP is a very exciting project :)



Thx,

Nicolas
Re: Very exciting project :) [message #861 is a reply to message #830] Tue, 29 August 2006 10:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: rherrmann.innoopract.com

Hi Nicolas,

the goal of RAP is to enable programmers to develop applications
'the eclipse way' - using the plug-in mechanism, a java widget
toolkit and workbench services
We aim for enabling as much reuse of RCP application components
as possible. However, for the first release of RAP the UI part
of existing RCP applications needs to be rewritten; which means
that core plug-ins can be reused, as long as they are multi-user
capable. It shall be possible to reuse Content- and Label-Providers.

Regards
Rüdiger

Nicolas Bihan wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I want to be sure. Are you talking about to build a web application with
> our "old" RCP existing code ?
>
> In that case RAP is a very exciting project :)
>
>
>
> Thx,
>
> Nicolas
Re: Very exciting project :) [message #891 is a reply to message #861] Tue, 29 August 2006 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rudiger:

Does the W4T code in CVS today have viewers for
org.eclipse.jface.viewers.ITreeContentProvider?

"Shall be possible to reuse Content- and Label-Providers" here is
slightly ambiguos. I am trying to get specific about what is
supported in the initial code drop at Eclipse. The Innopract W4T used
a different Provider interface such that lazy loading of a large content
tree from a JFace ContentProvider, for instance, looked difficult to
implement.

Ideally, I would like tto convert an EMF codegen "Editor" (plugin/rcp)
to a Web application. (For example, the standard EMF "Library"
tutorial turns a model into a JFace plugin for editing model data. I
would like to make this into a web application.)

Actually, the EMF codegen editor is not transactional over the
application's data. From an application point of view, it is not
mult-user. However, it uses only "core" JFace for the ui.

Has anyone attempted to webify EMF Library Editor using RAP? Then I
would really get excited.

-- Dan



R
Re: Very exciting project :) [message #922 is a reply to message #891] Wed, 30 August 2006 11:52 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: rherrmann.innoopract.com

Hello Dan,

in the current contribution there are no viewers yet. But for RAP we
need a component analogous to JFace which will provide the viewers. One
approach could be to implement this based on the w4t-viewers library,
but there is no final decision made yet.

Actually, we did some investigation using EMF inside RAP-Applications
(Yoxos on demand - http://ondemand.yoxos.com - uses an EMF-Model for
example). As the workbench part of RAP does not yet exist, there is too
much infrastructure missing to generate EMF-Editors.

Of course a webapplication adds a level of complexity due to its
multi-user nature. Therefore a RAP-based EMF-editor would be different
than its RCP counterpart. But apart from that, the transactional
behaviour of those EMF models would need to be solved at the model level.

Regards
Rüdiger

Dan Connelly wrote:
> Rudiger:
>
> Does the W4T code in CVS today have viewers for
> org.eclipse.jface.viewers.ITreeContentProvider?
>
> "Shall be possible to reuse Content- and Label-Providers" here is
> slightly ambiguos. I am trying to get specific about what is
> supported in the initial code drop at Eclipse. The Innopract W4T used
> a different Provider interface such that lazy loading of a large content
> tree from a JFace ContentProvider, for instance, looked difficult to
> implement.
>
> Ideally, I would like tto convert an EMF codegen "Editor" (plugin/rcp)
> to a Web application. (For example, the standard EMF "Library"
> tutorial turns a model into a JFace plugin for editing model data. I
> would like to make this into a web application.)
>
> Actually, the EMF codegen editor is not transactional over the
> application's data. From an application point of view, it is not
> mult-user. However, it uses only "core" JFace for the ui.
>
> Has anyone attempted to webify EMF Library Editor using RAP? Then I
> would really get excited.
>
> -- Dan
>
>
>
> Rüdiger Herrmann wrote:
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> the goal of RAP is to enable programmers to develop applications
>> 'the eclipse way' - using the plug-in mechanism, a java widget
>> toolkit and workbench services
>> We aim for enabling as much reuse of RCP application components
>> as possible. However, for the first release of RAP the UI part
>> of existing RCP applications needs to be rewritten; which means
>> that core plug-ins can be reused, as long as they are multi-user
>> capable. It shall be possible to reuse Content- and Label-Providers.
>>
>> Regards
>> Rüdiger
>>
>> Nicolas Bihan wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to be sure. Are you talking about to build a web application
>>> with our "old" RCP existing code ?
>>>
>>> In that case RAP is a very exciting project :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>>
>>> Nicolas
>
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