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How do I save the workspace ? [message #100625] Thu, 02 October 2003 12:25 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: steve.kily.oldforge.local

Is there a way to save the Eclipse workspace, other than exiting the
program ?

I never have cause to exit Eclipse, as I am working with it constantly.
However, it crashes every now and then, and each time I end up with a
really old copy of the workspace.

I have resorted to exiting and restarting Eclipse every now and then just
to save the workspace and it seems to be a bit of a waste.

Sorry if this is a FAQ - I have tried a web search, and also a search of
this newsgroup.

Cheers
Steve
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #100653 is a reply to message #100625] Thu, 02 October 2003 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.NO--SPAM.us.ibm.com

Look at your Windows->Preferences->Workbench page. There should be a
field labeled: "Workspace save interval (in minutes)" with a default of
5 minutes. This saves your state every five minutes and should return to
that state if you crash.

Rich
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #100712 is a reply to message #100653] Thu, 02 October 2003 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: steve.kily.oldforge.local

I'm fairly sure that the version of the workspace I get on restarting
after a crash is a lot older than 5 minutes.

I'll investigate further.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:47:33 -0400, Richard L. Kulp wrote:

> Look at your Windows->Preferences->Workbench page. There should be a
> field labeled: "Workspace save interval (in minutes)" with a default of
> 5 minutes. This saves your state every five minutes and should return to
> that state if you crash.
>
> Rich
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #100822 is a reply to message #100625] Fri, 03 October 2003 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: akiezun.cuthis.mit.edu.andthis

what do you mean by 'the workspace'? is the content of your files?
or you preferences? or your layout, etc?

files are saved everytime you press ctrl+s (every ca. 5 seconds in my case)
a simple 'refresh' should do the trick there

a.
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #100884 is a reply to message #100822] Fri, 03 October 2003 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: steve.kily.oldforge.local

It's the layout that I am losing, not the file content.

Things like which files I had open, which perspective was active, etc.

I've been told that the workspave layout is saved automatically every 5
minutes, but after a crash it seems to revert back to a layout much older
than 5 minutes.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:16:33 -0400, adam kiezun wrote:

> what do you mean by 'the workspace'? is the content of your files? or
> you preferences? or your layout, etc?
>
> files are saved everytime you press ctrl+s (every ca. 5 seconds in my
> case) a simple 'refresh' should do the trick there
>
> a.
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #101107 is a reply to message #100712] Fri, 03 October 2003 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: John_Arthorne.oti.com_

The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
these things.
--

Steve Leach wrote:
> I'm fairly sure that the version of the workspace I get on restarting
> after a crash is a lot older than 5 minutes.
>
> I'll investigate further.
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #101248 is a reply to message #101107] Sat, 04 October 2003 06:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: steve.kily.oldforge.local

Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information, other
than closing Eclipse ?

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0400, John Arthorne wrote:

> The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
> as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
> sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
> layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
> these things.
> --
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #101279 is a reply to message #101248] Sat, 04 October 2003 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
+1 for such a feature..
If i change some things like that then i now really close eclipse and open
it up again. And option save workspace would be very nice

johan


Steve Leach wrote:

> Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information, other
> than closing Eclipse ?
>
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0400, John Arthorne wrote:
>
>
>>The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
>>as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
>>sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
>>layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
>>these things.
>>--
>
>
>
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #102178 is a reply to message #101279] Wed, 08 October 2003 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: steve.kily.oldforge.local

This is bug #27821. If anyone else would like this feature, please vote
for it.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=27821

On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:59:11 +0200, Johan Compagner wrote:

> +1 for such a feature..
> If i change some things like that then i now really close eclipse and open
> it up again. And option save workspace would be very nice
>
> johan
>
>
> Steve Leach wrote:
>
>> Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information, other
>> than closing Eclipse ?
>>
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #103155 is a reply to message #101248] Fri, 10 October 2003 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: John_Arthorne.oti.com_

The philosophy here is that it's a bad sign if a tool provides a user
feature whose only purpose is to mitigate the pain of crashing. The
"optimistic" answer is that we should just fix the bugs that cause it to
crash rather than providing "band-aid" features to ease the pain. To
that end, we welcome bug reports for the crashes that prompted you to
request this feature in the first place.
--

Steve Leach wrote:
> Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information, other
> than closing Eclipse ?
>
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0400, John Arthorne wrote:
>
>
>>The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
>>as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
>>sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
>>layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
>>these things.
>>--
>
>
>
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #103331 is a reply to message #102178] Sat, 11 October 2003 22:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Sorry I missed the start of the thread.
I just added a comment to your enhancement request :

>> For me it would just be enough to have these preferences
>> saved automatically say every XX minutes.
>>
>> Using the workspace save interval preference would
>> just be enough and add nothing to the interface.
>> (but isn't is supposed to do so ?)

It is likely that your enhancement request will never be
implemented, because it
- adds one more action in the interface
- if you only have issue in case of crash, my proposed
solution is probably easier to implement and would
satisfy everyone.

If this is what you need, I think it is in fact a bug that
the workspace metadata is not saved along with the workspace.

--
Steve
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #103849 is a reply to message #103155] Mon, 13 October 2003 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
John Arthorne wrote:

> The philosophy here is that it's a bad sign if a tool provides a user
> feature whose only purpose is to mitigate the pain of crashing. The
> "optimistic" answer is that we should just fix the bugs that cause it to
> crash rather than providing "band-aid" features to ease the pain. To
> that end, we welcome bug reports for the crashes that prompted you to
> request this feature in the first place.
> --
>
> Steve Leach wrote:
>> Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information,
>> other than closing Eclipse ?
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0400, John Arthorne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
>>>as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
>>>sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
>>>layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
>>>these things.
>>>--


There is (probably) nothing you can do to prevent poorly written plug-ins
from forcing the need to shut down, or from calling a Native (JNI) library
that fails drastically.
Re: How do I save the workspace ? [message #104889 is a reply to message #103849] Tue, 14 October 2003 23:03 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Unhappily I don't have the old workspace here, I think I saved my old
workspace at work, so tomorrow I'll send. I just lost all my workspace, mean
lost, because everytime I opened eclipse, I gave errors for every view. The
only soluction was to delete the entire workspace.

Emerson


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> John Arthorne wrote:
>
> > The philosophy here is that it's a bad sign if a tool provides a user
> > feature whose only purpose is to mitigate the pain of crashing. The
> > "optimistic" answer is that we should just fix the bugs that cause it to
> > crash rather than providing "band-aid" features to ease the pain. To
> > that end, we welcome bug reports for the crashes that prompted you to
> > request this feature in the first place.
> > --
> >
> > Steve Leach wrote:
> >> Is there a facility for manually saving the "aesthetic" information,
> >> other than closing Eclipse ?
> >>
> >> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:54:23 -0400, John Arthorne wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The incremental save that you see here only saves "critical" data such
> >>>as the resource tree, markers, resource properties, and team provider
> >>>sync information. It does not store "aesthetic" information like
> >>>layouts and selections. There is no facility for incrementally saving
> >>>these things.
> >>>--
>
>
> There is (probably) nothing you can do to prevent poorly written plug-ins
> from forcing the need to shut down, or from calling a Native (JNI) library
> that fails drastically.
>


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