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[ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #98787]

Sat, 11 October 2003 22:18

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: corona.knowledgeseeker.com

SWT and Swing are both controversial in their own ways. We'd like to know
how you feel about them and ask that you complete the survey found at the
link below.

http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?LMRF8FS5V4C6473LEK2JMBGV

Your information will be kept strictly confidential and won't be used for
any sales purpose. It will be used to help us make strategic product
decisions.

The survey takes about 5 minutes to complete...and you can enter to win a
$100 Amazon.com gift certificate.

Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts and opinions!

The KnowledgeSeeker Team

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #98850 is a reply to message #98787]

Sun, 12 October 2003 10:35

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ThisisFake.Fakeness.xyz

Took the survey, but I feel as if I'd have to be a qualified nut to leave
my email address on anything associated with marketing ;)

CL

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #99493 is a reply to message #98787]

Mon, 13 October 2003 15:08

Eclipse User

i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they
must be getting email addresses from the bug database...

-alvin

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #99743 is a reply to message #99493]

Tue, 14 October 2003 13:21

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: simon.rutishauser.gmx.ch

Am Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:08:07 -0400 schrieb Alvin Thompson:

> i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they must
> be getting email addresses from the bug database...
>
> -alvin

Me too.

I hate them for it. I didn't bother to look at the survey either - not
even the mail adress was coressponding to the survey's url...

Peschmä

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #99783 is a reply to message #99743]

Tue, 14 October 2003 22:02

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: corona.knowledgeseeker.com

Our email lists our legitimate and are not spam. We are not getting email
addresses from the bug database. Yes we do use a 3rd party Survey system
provider...it is much more efficient to outsource. We feel the subject of
this survey (SWT) is on topic for this forum and we greatly appreciate the
many people who have responded. Once again, the information will be kept
strictly confidential and won't be used for sales purpose. It will be used
to help our client make strategic product decisions.

KnowledgeSeeker Team

"Simon Rutishauser" <simon.rutishauser@gmx.ch> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.10.14.17.21.04.841298@gmx.ch...
> Am Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:08:07 -0400 schrieb Alvin Thompson:
>
> > i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they
must
> > be getting email addresses from the bug database...
> >
> > -alvin
>
> Me too.
>
> I hate them for it. I didn't bother to look at the survey either - not
> even the mail adress was coressponding to the survey's url...
>
> Peschm

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #99805 is a reply to message #99783]

Wed, 15 October 2003 03:40

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mnaglik.NOSPAM.gazeta.pl

> Our email lists our legitimate and are not spam. We are not getting email
How did you get my email and emails of other user from this group?

M.

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100010 is a reply to message #99783]

Wed, 15 October 2003 11:56

Eclipse User

if you don't 'harvest' email addresses how did you get mine (my real
one, not the phoney one here)? i use different email addresses for
different purposes, yet you got the one i use here. i would like to know
very much how you claim to have gotten it. if you did get it from a
legitimate source you are required by law to disclose it upon my request
(al a t thompsonlogic d ot com). please do so now, on this forum.

nobody considers themselves to be a spammer, but the fact is i received
unsolicited, unwanted email from you. last i checked, that's the
definition of spam. it does not matter that you think i might want your
mailings. you thought wrong. i guess if you outsource the collection of
the email addresses you can spam with a clear conscience? the problem
with many businesses today as they feel that adherence to the letter of
the law (and taking advantage of any loopholes) is a substitute for
morality.

-alvin

corona wrote:
> Our email lists our legitimate and are not spam. We are not getting email
> addresses from the bug database. Yes we do use a 3rd party Survey system
> provider...it is much more efficient to outsource. We feel the subject of
> this survey (SWT) is on topic for this forum and we greatly appreciate the
> many people who have responded. Once again, the information will be kept
> strictly confidential and won't be used for sales purpose. It will be used
> to help our client make strategic product decisions.
>
> KnowledgeSeeker Team
>
>
>
> "Simon Rutishauser" <simon.rutishauser@gmx.ch> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.10.14.17.21.04.841298@gmx.ch...
>
>>Am Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:08:07 -0400 schrieb Alvin Thompson:
>>
>>
>>>i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they
>
> must
>
>>>be getting email addresses from the bug database...
>>>
>>>-alvin
>>
>>Me too.
>>
>>I hate them for it. I didn't bother to look at the survey either - not
>>even the mail adress was coressponding to the survey's url...
>>
>>Peschmä
>
>
>

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100039 is a reply to message #99783]

Wed, 15 October 2003 12:51

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: simon.rutishauser.gmx.ch

Am Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:02:53 -0700 schrieb corona:

> Our email lists our legitimate

What the f*** does your list make legitimate?

> and are not spam.

unwanted mails are spaaam.

> We are not getting email
> addresses from the bug database. Yes we do use a 3rd party Survey system
> provider...it is much more efficient to outsource.

you please repeat that in clear terms

> We feel the subject of
> this survey (SWT) is on topic for this forum and we greatly appreciate the
> many people who have responded.

I don't mind whether you feel that I would be interested in whatever.

What if I feel you are interested in being kicked? Do I kick you?
Is that what you suggest?

If it is so, please send me your postal address...

> Once again, the information will be kept
> strictly confidential and won't be used for sales purpose. It will be used
> to help our client make strategic product decisions.

What does strictly confidental mean, if you're spamming me?

Peschmä

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100069 is a reply to message #99783]

Wed, 15 October 2003 16:01

Eclipse User

Posting your survey link to this newsgroup *is* appropriate.
Sending unsolicited email is *not*.

Carolyn

"corona" <corona@knowledgeseeker.com> wrote in message
news:bmi9rs$vpv$1@eclipse.org...
> Our email lists our legitimate and are not spam. We are not getting email
> addresses from the bug database. Yes we do use a 3rd party Survey system
> provider...it is much more efficient to outsource. We feel the subject of
> this survey (SWT) is on topic for this forum and we greatly appreciate the
> many people who have responded. Once again, the information will be kept
> strictly confidential and won't be used for sales purpose. It will be used
> to help our client make strategic product decisions.
>
> KnowledgeSeeker Team
>
>
>
> "Simon Rutishauser" <simon.rutishauser@gmx.ch> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.10.14.17.21.04.841298@gmx.ch...
> > Am Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:08:07 -0400 schrieb Alvin Thompson:
> >
> > > i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they
> must
> > > be getting email addresses from the bug database...
> > >
> > > -alvin
> >
> > Me too.
> >
> > I hate them for it. I didn't bother to look at the survey either - not
> > even the mail adress was coressponding to the survey's url...
> >
> > Peschm

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100282 is a reply to message #98787]

Thu, 16 October 2003 14:48

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: gsladeNOSPAM.us.ibm.com

So, I wasn't going to bother commenting on this but.....
I replied to the email and asked to be removed from the email list......
this was on the 11th when these emails started.

I just got yet another email from these idiots asking to take the survey, so
they have ignored my request...... isn't that against the law?

I don't think corona@knowledgeseeker.com can claim this is not spam without
a smirk on his/her/its face

Anyway, I'll never play ball with The KnowledgeSeeker Team

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100295 is a reply to message #100282]

Thu, 16 October 2003 14:07

Eclipse User

I got spam from them to almost all my email addresses, including my
university account which I almost never use in the outside.

I suggest banning them from this newsgroup :)

Genady

Guy Slade wrote:
> So, I wasn't going to bother commenting on this but.....
> I replied to the email and asked to be removed from the email list......
> this was on the 11th when these emails started.
>
> I just got yet another email from these idiots asking to take the survey, so
> they have ignored my request...... isn't that against the law?
>
> I don't think corona@knowledgeseeker.com can claim this is not spam without
> a smirk on his/her/its face
>
> Anyway, I'll never play ball with The KnowledgeSeeker Team
>
>

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100309 is a reply to message #100295]

Thu, 16 October 2003 15:14

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: friederich.kupzog.de

Genady wrote:

> I suggest banning them from this newsgroup :)

Alternatively:
- let's all send spam to them as well
- lets all do the survey and fill in complete nonsense :-)

--
Friederich Kupzog
Elektronik & Software
Neusser Str. 5-7
50670 Köln
Tel 0241 160696-1
Fax 0221 726670
www.kupzog.de/fkmk

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100456 is a reply to message #100069]

Thu, 16 October 2003 13:09

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: simon.rutishauser.gmx.ch

exactly it is ***not*** appropriate.

Consequence: I won't participate and think you are...

Peschmä

Am Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:01:28 -0400 schrieb Carolyn MacLeod:
> Posting your survey link to this newsgroup *is* appropriate. Sending
> unsolicited email is *not*.
>
> Carolyn
>
> "corona" <corona@knowledgeseeker.com> wrote in message
> news:bmi9rs$vpv$1@eclipse.org...
>> Our email lists our legitimate and are not spam. We are not getting
>> email addresses from the bug database. Yes we do use a 3rd party Survey
>> system provider...it is much more efficient to outsource. We feel the
>> subject of this survey (SWT) is on topic for this forum and we greatly
>> appreciate the many people who have responded. Once again, the
>> information will be kept strictly confidential and won't be used for
>> sales purpose. It will be used to help our client make strategic product
>> decisions.
>>
>> KnowledgeSeeker Team
>>
>>
>>
>> "Simon Rutishauser" <simon.rutishauser@gmx.ch> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2003.10.14.17.21.04.841298@gmx.ch...
>> > Am Mon, 13 Oct 2003 15:08:07 -0400 schrieb Alvin Thompson:
>> >
>> > > i just got spam from these bums! i never filled out the survey; they
>> must
>> > > be getting email addresses from the bug database...
>> > >
>> > > -alvin
>> >
>> > Me too.
>> >
>> > I hate them for it. I didn't bother to look at the survey either - not
>> > even the mail adress was coressponding to the survey's url...
>> >
>> > Peschmä
>>
>>
>>

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100483 is a reply to message #100282]

Fri, 17 October 2003 09:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: eclipse-user.jibeinc.com

Guy Slade wrote:

> So, I wasn't going to bother commenting on this but.....
> I replied to the email and asked to be removed from the email list......
> this was on the 11th when these emails started.
>
> I just got yet another email from these idiots asking to take the survey, so
> they have ignored my request...... isn't that against the law?
>
> I don't think corona@knowledgeseeker.com can claim this is not spam without
> a smirk on his/her/its face
>
> Anyway, I'll never play ball with The KnowledgeSeeker Team

Just report them - www.SpamCop.net is your friend...

--
Eric Rizzo
Software Architect
Jibe, Inc.
http://www.jibeinc.com

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100551 is a reply to message #100483]

Fri, 17 October 2003 15:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: simon.rutishauser.gmx.ch

Am Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:54:01 -0400 schrieb Eric Rizzo:

> Guy Slade wrote:
>
>> So, I wasn't going to bother commenting on this but..... I replied to
>> the email and asked to be removed from the email list...... this was on
>> the 11th when these emails started.
>>
>> I just got yet another email from these idiots asking to take the
>> survey, so they have ignored my request...... isn't that against the
>> law?
>>
>> I don't think corona@knowledgeseeker.com can claim this is not spam
>> without a smirk on his/her/its face
>>
>> Anyway, I'll never play ball with The KnowledgeSeeker Team
>
> Just report them - www.SpamCop.net is your friend...

What does this help?

Are they making a smtp server list for those to ban?

Peschmä

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100565 is a reply to message #100309]

Fri, 17 October 2003 15:55

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: simon.rutishauser.gmx.ch

Am Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:14:02 +0200 schrieb Friederich Kupzog:

> Genady wrote:
>
>> I suggest banning them from this newsgroup :)
>
> Alternatively:
> - let's all send spam to them as well - lets all do the survey and fill in
> complete nonsense :-)

But I don't understand them. They provoke this.
But why do they do the survey if they're not interested in the results?
(They should see how far they go and that this is too far...)
To confirm email-adresses for spamming?

Peschmä

Re: [ANN] SWT vs Swing Opinion Poll [message #100955 is a reply to message #100551]

Mon, 20 October 2003 10:13

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: eclipse-user.jibeinc.com

>>Just report them - www.SpamCop.net is your friend...
>
> What does this help?
>
> Are they making a smtp server list for those to ban?
>
> Peschmä

http://news.spamcop.net/cgi-bin/fom?file=3
http://news.spamcop.net/cgi-bin/fom?file=1

--
Eric Rizzo
Software Architect
Jibe, Inc.
http://www.jibeinc.com

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