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Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98739] Fri, 19 June 2009 11:17 Go to next message
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Hi,
After RC5 is out, and the final Eclipse PHP build was created I want to
ask you to help us with verifying the builds created.

note that these are final releases. so... grab your os binary and let us
know what you think about it (a +1 will be enough ;) for now).

Win:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/35/downloa d/20090619-0630/20090619-0630_eclipse-php-galileo-RC5-win32. win32.x86.zip

Linux 32:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/35/downloa d/20090619-0630/20090619-0630_eclipse-php-galileo-RC5-linux. gtk.x86.tar.gz

Linux 64:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/35/downloa d/20090619-0630/20090619-0630_eclipse-php-galileo-RC5-linux. gtk.x86_64.tar.gz

Mac cocoa:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/35/downloa d/20090619-0630/20090619-0630_eclipse-php-galileo-RC5-macosx .cocoa.x86.tar.gz

Mac carbon:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/35/downloa d/20090619-0630/20090619-0630_eclipse-php-galileo-RC5-macosx .carbon.ppc.tar.gz
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98774 is a reply to message #98739] Fri, 19 June 2009 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mnm.criion.net

Still no win64? *sniff* :)
--
-michael
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98789 is a reply to message #98774] Fri, 19 June 2009 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael Madsen schreef:
> Still no win64? *sniff* :)
As far as I know, even eclipse is only 32 bit on windows. Look here:
http://eclipse.org/downloads/packages/
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98802 is a reply to message #98789] Sat, 20 June 2009 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mnm.criion.net

Hehe yes ofc, my bad :)
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-michael
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98815 is a reply to message #98739] Sat, 20 June 2009 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please get the fix for 280935 into te build before releasing final version.

Also I'm experiencing very very long builds 20 minutes! for project
residing on networked share for vmware machine running on local PC.
As eclipse is burning 0,78% of cpu time and vmware 9% it seems as eclipse
is just twiddling its thumbs.

P.S. Creating new project and selecting Create project from existing
source.
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98847 is a reply to message #98739] Sun, 21 June 2009 04:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As far as I can see it is stable for know. But please have a look at the
code assist and namespaces features before releasing it. It is still not
working and there are no comments at the bugs in bugzilla.
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98861 is a reply to message #98815] Sun, 21 June 2009 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: eclipsenews.20.epm.spamgourmet.com

Hi Miha,

I have noticed this issue when using Eclipse with a project over a
network share also. I am not sure what causes it, but the workaround I
came up with is to checkout/copy the files to my local machine (where
eclipse runs), and use an Eclipse plugin called FileSync to upload only
changed files to the network share. A project build that used to take
5-10 minutes now happens in seconds.

My guess is that Eclipse probably uses some OS-level notification to
listen for file changes that do not work over a network share, meaning
that Eclipse has to individually stat every file on the share for changes.

Hope that helps
Cheers
Tom

Miha Vrhovnik wrote:
> Please get the fix for 280935 into te build before releasing final version.
>
> Also I'm experiencing very very long builds 20 minutes! for project
> residing on networked share for vmware machine running on local PC.
> As eclipse is burning 0,78% of cpu time and vmware 9% it seems as
> eclipse is just twiddling its thumbs.
>
> P.S. Creating new project and selecting Create project from existing
> source.
>
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98874 is a reply to message #98739] Mon, 22 June 2009 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Roy,

I've been using the RC4 and then the RC5 builds, and they're both great,
and in some ways, even better than Fedora's built-in Eclipse + PDT
download (i.e., the AIO builds are better).

However, there are some problems when working with larger projects. For
example, I do some development using Moodle, which is a very large PHP
project, and just now I got a workbench error while it was trying to
build or whatever it does when processing the enormous amount of files.

Additionally, this was a problem in RC4, and I believe persists in RC5 -
basically, in the same large projects, features like mark occurrences
and type suggest take an enormously long amount of time. When I start
to type a variable, as much as one minute may pass before it lets me
complete typing. That is, when I type "$", what I type after does not
appear for about one minute (usually the first time when loading a
project for the day). Subsequent attempts are slightly faster, but
still on the order of seconds. This was not such a severe problem in
the 1.0.x series. I have disabled almost all of these helpful features
to make the performance of PDT reasonably acceptable.

Aside from that, 2.1 is definitely an improvement over 2.0, but these
issues continue to hassle me and tend to drive me back to phpeclipse,
which is already packaged with Fedora.

Incidentally, the packager for phpeclipse showed some interest in
packaging PDT for Fedora, so I hope the PDT team can coordinate with him
and maybe get PDT into Fedora. That would really be a wonderful turn out.
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Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98889 is a reply to message #98874] Mon, 22 June 2009 15:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you all for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
Can you please open issue in Bugzilla about your request:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=PDT

- Roy

Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:

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> Roy,

> I've been using the RC4 and then the RC5 builds, and they're both great,
> and in some ways, even better than Fedora's built-in Eclipse + PDT
> download (i.e., the AIO builds are better).

> However, there are some problems when working with larger projects. For
> example, I do some development using Moodle, which is a very large PHP
> project, and just now I got a workbench error while it was trying to
> build or whatever it does when processing the enormous amount of files.

> Additionally, this was a problem in RC4, and I believe persists in RC5 -
> basically, in the same large projects, features like mark occurrences
> and type suggest take an enormously long amount of time. When I start
> to type a variable, as much as one minute may pass before it lets me
> complete typing. That is, when I type "$", what I type after does not
> appear for about one minute (usually the first time when loading a
> project for the day). Subsequent attempts are slightly faster, but
> still on the order of seconds. This was not such a severe problem in
> the 1.0.x series. I have disabled almost all of these helpful features
> to make the performance of PDT reasonably acceptable.

> Aside from that, 2.1 is definitely an improvement over 2.0, but these
> issues continue to hassle me and tend to drive me back to phpeclipse,
> which is already packaged with Fedora.

> Incidentally, the packager for phpeclipse showed some interest in
> packaging PDT for Fedora, so I hope the PDT team can coordinate with him
> and maybe get PDT into Fedora. That would really be a wonderful turn out.
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Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98904 is a reply to message #98889] Tue, 23 June 2009 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 06/23/2009 03:50 AM, Roy Ganor wrote:
> Thank you all for the feedback, I really appreciate it!
> Can you please open issue in Bugzilla about your request:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=PDT
> - Roy

Well here's the first one, regarding the workspace:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=281212

By the way, are ALL Bugzilla instances slow? At first I thought it was
just Red Hat's, but it seems that's just par for the course. Any tips
on what I can do to make it work faster for me, or do we just have to
live with it?
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Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98918 is a reply to message #98904] Tue, 23 June 2009 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:
> By the way, are ALL Bugzilla instances slow? At first I thought it was
> just Red Hat's, but it seems that's just par for the course. Any tips
> on what I can do to make it work faster for me, or do we just have to
> live with it?

I'd expect that it's mostly because of the time of year, what with
the mirrors replicating Galileo (which includes PDT 2.1) today, and
Friends of Eclipse downloading it as quickly as they can.

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Eclipse WTP Source Editing
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Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98932 is a reply to message #98904] Tue, 23 June 2009 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Basil Mohamed Gohar napsal(a):
>
> By the way, are ALL Bugzilla instances slow? At first I thought it was
> just Red Hat's, but it seems that's just par for the course. Any tips
> on what I can do to make it work faster for me, or do we just have to
> live with it?

Hi Basil,

eclipse's BugZilla is really very very slow and when i'm using this bugzilla, web browser
is freezing and web browser doesn't respond in many situations.

I want to tell, that this is very very annoying and I couldn't understand, why peoples,
which are responsible don't do something with this problem.

Many times I wanted create new ticket in eclipse's bugzilla, but because it's so very slow
i didn't

Peoples from eclipse dev team know about this problem for 100%, but the problem is
somewhere in other place and isn't so simple to speed up this.

But know about some thing or situation, when this problem doesn't occur.

Solution is MYLYN!!. I recommend to you, start using MYLYN and you will not problem with
slow bugzilla web app ;) ;) ;)

I hope this help
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98946 is a reply to message #98932] Tue, 23 June 2009 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And i want to ask somebody competent, why is bugzilla web app so slow and if somebody
works on speed up this

Thank you for reactions
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98960 is a reply to message #98946] Tue, 23 June 2009 22:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dcarver.starstandard.org

It's slow because the bandwidth is getting redirected to serving eclipse
Galileo downloads. It gets this way every year.

Dave

sNop wrote:
> And i want to ask somebody competent, why is bugzilla web app so slow and if somebody
> works on speed up this
>
> Thank you for reactions
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #98975 is a reply to message #98960] Wed, 24 June 2009 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David Carver napsal(a):
> It's slow because the bandwidth is getting redirected to serving eclipse
> Galileo downloads. It gets this way every year.
>
> Dave
>

Thank you for reaction
Re: Preview for PDT 2.1 and request for sanity [message #99734 is a reply to message #98739] Tue, 07 July 2009 12:04 Go to previous message
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I am using Mac OS X 10.5.7. I tried PDT 2.1 on a MacBook Pro (32 bit) and
on a Mac Pro (64 Bit). I can't set up the PHP Executable path as when
hitting the Browse button the dialog box doesn't show hidden files. This
works fine in PDT 2.0. If I type in the path directly, e.g.
usr/local/php5/bin (path tp Entropy PHP) I get various errors when I try
to run a test script.
Has anybody else seen this?
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