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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721803 is a reply to message #721798] |
Fri, 02 September 2011 23:23   |
 Ed Merks
Messages: 33142
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John,
I don't know if we make those anymore...
On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
> Ed,
>
> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>
>
> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>
>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> John
>
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721806 is a reply to message #721803] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 00:02 |
Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: John E. Conlon
Ed,
Information on the current EMF ODA driver is confusing at best. A google
search for EMF ODA returns references to websites with more information
about the the old interim driver than the new one. And these don't
mention that there is a new driver. Besides the javadocs and various
bugzillas the only information I can find on the new driver is in the
EclipseCon presentation.
While the old driver has a web presence in the dtp incubator, I can't
find any web site that mentions the new driver.
Shouldn't there be some web presence for the new driver? Perhaps
someplace under http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/?
With at least one or two sentences informing the end user about what it
does and a place for downloading the builds, releases as a zip just like
the other EMF components?
IMHO the new EMF Driver adds a significant functionality to EMF models -
and deserves at least an honorary mention someplace;-)
WDYT?
John
On 09/02/2011 06:23 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
> John,
>
> I don't know if we make those anymore...
>
>
> On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>>
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>>
>>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> John
>>
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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721827 is a reply to message #721806] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 02:06 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 33142
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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John,
Comments below.
On 02/09/2011 5:02 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Information on the current EMF ODA driver is confusing at best.
Yes, it's far from ideal.
> A google search for EMF ODA returns references to websites with more
> information about the the old interim driver than the new one.
There's not much for Google to index...
> And these don't mention that there is a new driver.
They're not kept up-to-date anymore than there's good new information
for what Kenn did.
> Besides the javadocs and various bugzillas the only information I can
> find on the new driver is in the EclipseCon presentation.
Indeed.
>
> While the old driver has a web presence in the dtp incubator, I can't
> find any web site that mentions the new driver.
I know. It's practically invisible.
>
> Shouldn't there be some web presence for the new driver?
Yes.
> Perhaps someplace under http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/?
That would be good. We're not even doing a good job pointing people at
the update sites though...
> With at least one or two sentences informing the end user about what
> it does and a place for downloading the builds, releases as a zip just
> like the other EMF components?
>
> IMHO the new EMF Driver adds a significant functionality to EMF models
> - and deserves at least an honorary mention someplace;-)
I totally agree.
>
> WDYT?
I think we're doing an exceedingly poor job of keeping the website
up-to-date.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 09/02/2011 06:23 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> I don't know if we make those anymore...
>>
>>
>> On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>>>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>> HI,
>>>>>
>>>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> John
>>>
>
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721926 is a reply to message #721827] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 16:14 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: John E. Conlon
Ed,
While perhaps not intended - your responses brought a smile to an
overcast and rainy day.
OK - is there something I can do to help?
John
On 09/02/2011 09:06 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
> John,
>
> Comments below.
>
> On 02/09/2011 5:02 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> Information on the current EMF ODA driver is confusing at best.
> Yes, it's far from ideal.
>> A google search for EMF ODA returns references to websites with more
>> information about the the old interim driver than the new one.
> There's not much for Google to index...
>> And these don't mention that there is a new driver.
> They're not kept up-to-date anymore than there's good new information
> for what Kenn did.
>> Besides the javadocs and various bugzillas the only information I can
>> find on the new driver is in the EclipseCon presentation.
> Indeed.
>>
>> While the old driver has a web presence in the dtp incubator, I can't
>> find any web site that mentions the new driver.
> I know. It's practically invisible.
>>
>> Shouldn't there be some web presence for the new driver?
> Yes.
>> Perhaps someplace under http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/?
> That would be good. We're not even doing a good job pointing people at
> the update sites though...
>> With at least one or two sentences informing the end user about what
>> it does and a place for downloading the builds, releases as a zip just
>> like the other EMF components?
>>
>> IMHO the new EMF Driver adds a significant functionality to EMF models
>> - and deserves at least an honorary mention someplace;-)
> I totally agree.
>>
>> WDYT?
> I think we're doing an exceedingly poor job of keeping the website
> up-to-date.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2011 06:23 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> I don't know if we make those anymore...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>>>>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>>>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>>>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>>>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> John
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721934 is a reply to message #721926] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 16:44 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 33142
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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John,
A wiki page would be a good starting point for the community to
contribute documentation and to give Google something to index...
I'm hoping to get some help with the website in the fall. It's not just
EMF that's bad, but the general modeling site and much (though not all)
of what's lurking under it...
On 03/09/2011 9:14 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
> Ed,
>
> While perhaps not intended - your responses brought a smile to an
> overcast and rainy day.
>
> OK - is there something I can do to help?
>
> John
>
>
> On 09/02/2011 09:06 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> Comments below.
>>
>> On 02/09/2011 5:02 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> Information on the current EMF ODA driver is confusing at best.
>> Yes, it's far from ideal.
>>> A google search for EMF ODA returns references to websites with more
>>> information about the the old interim driver than the new one.
>> There's not much for Google to index...
>>> And these don't mention that there is a new driver.
>> They're not kept up-to-date anymore than there's good new information
>> for what Kenn did.
>>> Besides the javadocs and various bugzillas the only information I can
>>> find on the new driver is in the EclipseCon presentation.
>> Indeed.
>>>
>>> While the old driver has a web presence in the dtp incubator, I can't
>>> find any web site that mentions the new driver.
>> I know. It's practically invisible.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't there be some web presence for the new driver?
>> Yes.
>>> Perhaps someplace under http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/?
>> That would be good. We're not even doing a good job pointing people at
>> the update sites though...
>>> With at least one or two sentences informing the end user about what
>>> it does and a place for downloading the builds, releases as a zip just
>>> like the other EMF components?
>>>
>>> IMHO the new EMF Driver adds a significant functionality to EMF models
>>> - and deserves at least an honorary mention someplace;-)
>> I totally agree.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>> I think we're doing an exceedingly poor job of keeping the website
>> up-to-date.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/02/2011 06:23 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if we make those anymore...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>>>>>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>>>>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>>>>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>>>>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>
>
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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| Re: Where to download EMF ODA builds [message #721945 is a reply to message #721934] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 18:25 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: John E. Conlon
Ed,
Updated the http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ecore_ODA_Driver page and added a
link to it at the
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Modeling_Framework#Documentation_.26_Assistance
On 09/03/2011 11:44 AM, Ed Merks wrote:
> John,
>
> A wiki page would be a good starting point for the community to
> contribute documentation and to give Google something to index...
>
> I'm hoping to get some help with the website in the fall. It's not just
> EMF that's bad, but the general modeling site and much (though not all)
> of what's lurking under it...
>
>
> On 03/09/2011 9:14 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> While perhaps not intended - your responses brought a smile to an
>> overcast and rainy day.
>>
>> OK - is there something I can do to help?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On 09/02/2011 09:06 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>> John,
>>>
>>> Comments below.
>>>
>>> On 02/09/2011 5:02 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>> Ed,
>>>>
>>>> Information on the current EMF ODA driver is confusing at best.
>>> Yes, it's far from ideal.
>>>> A google search for EMF ODA returns references to websites with more
>>>> information about the the old interim driver than the new one.
>>> There's not much for Google to index...
>>>> And these don't mention that there is a new driver.
>>> They're not kept up-to-date anymore than there's good new information
>>> for what Kenn did.
>>>> Besides the javadocs and various bugzillas the only information I can
>>>> find on the new driver is in the EclipseCon presentation.
>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>>> While the old driver has a web presence in the dtp incubator, I can't
>>>> find any web site that mentions the new driver.
>>> I know. It's practically invisible.
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't there be some web presence for the new driver?
>>> Yes.
>>>> Perhaps someplace under http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/?
>>> That would be good. We're not even doing a good job pointing people at
>>> the update sites though...
>>>> With at least one or two sentences informing the end user about what
>>>> it does and a place for downloading the builds, releases as a zip just
>>>> like the other EMF components?
>>>>
>>>> IMHO the new EMF Driver adds a significant functionality to EMF models
>>>> - and deserves at least an honorary mention someplace;-)
>>> I totally agree.
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>> I think we're doing an exceedingly poor job of keeping the website
>>> up-to-date.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/02/2011 06:23 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>> John,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if we make those anymore...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/09/2011 3:42 PM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about a site to just download a zip of the build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/02/2011 02:43 PM, Ed Merks wrote:
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're better to use one of the composite sites:
>>>>>>> <https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=314388
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/09/2011 10:28 AM, John E. Conlon wrote:
>>>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can retrieve the official EMF ODA Driver from the p2
>>>>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/releases/indigo
>>>>>>>> update site under the Modeling category, but what is the URL of the
>>>>>>>> Projects Web page where I can download the various Releases and
>>>>>>>> Maintenance Builds?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't find it at the core EMF project
>>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emf/downloads/?project=emf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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