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| What's the matter with RAP? [message #76233] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 04:10  |
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Originally posted by: allen_liu.i-len.com
HI ALL:
Is there anyone implement to define Custom widgets in RAP?
We can't set background images for composite or other containers. It's a
disappointing things to developper.
Although RAP Team said we can define Custom widgets or use Theme properties
to improve our application's Interface
who is enhancing the Theme properties capability. If we want to define
Custom Widgets,we must be familiar with Javascript,Qooxdoo,SWT, RAP
knowledge ect. It's a trouble thing. I only wanna to implement a login page
as normal as html page. I wanna to set background image for whole
composite, fill gradient for the page, don't show the button border. It
provides the Theme which change the whole Element Style is too uglily.
Because it's comfortable. But RAP can't give us that for the moment. How
could we do? we have to write JAVA class,Javascript , XML ect. step by
step. When can we develop the RAP application as convenience as RCP. I hope
it's not a long time.
ALLEN
2008-03-03
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| RE: What's the matter with RAP? [message #76249 is a reply to message #76233] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 06:02  |
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Originally posted by: fappel.innoopract.com
Hi,
sorry that we can't do everything at once. We have limited resources and
try to do our best. Please note that you are still able to use the RAP
stuff for free. However we've noticed that there is a need to improve
the ability for theming and customization of RAP widgets, so we included
this into our short term development goals. For example the background
image on controls should be available in the next milestone build.
Ciao
Frank
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: allen [mailto:allen_liu@i-len.com]
Bereitgestellt: Montag, 3. März 2008 05:10
Bereitgestellt in: eclipse.technology.rap
Unterhaltung: What's the matter with RAP?
Betreff: What's the matter with RAP?
HI ALL:
Is there anyone implement to define Custom widgets in RAP?
We can't set background images for composite or other containers. It's a
disappointing things to developper.
Although RAP Team said we can define Custom widgets or use Theme
properties to improve our application's Interface who is enhancing the
Theme properties capability. If we want to define Custom Widgets,we must
be familiar with Javascript,Qooxdoo,SWT, RAP knowledge ect. It's a
trouble thing. I only wanna to implement a login page as normal as html
page. I wanna to set background image for whole composite, fill gradient
for the page, don't show the button border. It provides the Theme which
change the whole Element Style is too uglily.
Because it's comfortable. But RAP can't give us that for the moment. How
could we do? we have to write JAVA class,Javascript , XML ect. step by
step. When can we develop the RAP application as convenience as RCP. I
hope it's not a long time.
ALLEN
2008-03-03
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| Re: What's the matter with RAP? [message #76282 is a reply to message #76233] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 09:43 |
 Stefan 
Messages: 316
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi,
have you thought about implementing your login dialog outside of your
RAP application (as pure HTML)? This avoids a long startup time and
might preserve resources, as the whole worbench stuff is only loaded if
the user successfully logs in.
Just a thought...
Stefan.
allen schrieb:
> HI ALL:
> Is there anyone implement to define Custom widgets in RAP?
> We can't set background images for composite or other containers. It's a
> disappointing things to developper.
> Although RAP Team said we can define Custom widgets or use Theme properties
> to improve our application's Interface
> who is enhancing the Theme properties capability. If we want to define
> Custom Widgets,we must be familiar with Javascript,Qooxdoo,SWT, RAP
> knowledge ect. It's a trouble thing. I only wanna to implement a login page
> as normal as html page. I wanna to set background image for whole
> composite, fill gradient for the page, don't show the button border. It
> provides the Theme which change the whole Element Style is too uglily.
> Because it's comfortable. But RAP can't give us that for the moment. How
> could we do? we have to write JAVA class,Javascript , XML ect. step by
> step. When can we develop the RAP application as convenience as RCP. I hope
> it's not a long time.
>
> ALLEN
>
> 2008-03-03
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| Re: What's the matter with RAP? [message #76300 is a reply to message #76233] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 09:49 |
Oliver Köhler
Messages: 32
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi Allen,
I really don't understand you point of view.
The RAP Framework gives you everything you need in order to make really
cool and exciting web applications. Nobody claims that the development of RAP
has been finished and nobody claims that RAP is able to fulfill every whish that a
developer has.
Right now RAP is providing everything a standard developer should need.
If you come to the point where you'd like to do more, then it is your
responsibility to extend your knowledge with the technology you need, to achieve
your goal.
We are not talking about bugs but about features. If you are unsatisfied with
the features you've been provided with, you are free to develop it by yourself and commit
your part to the community.
That's how it works!!!
Regards
Oliver
allen schrieb:
> HI ALL:
> Is there anyone implement to define Custom widgets in RAP?
> We can't set background images for composite or other containers. It's a
> disappointing things to developper.
> Although RAP Team said we can define Custom widgets or use Theme properties
> to improve our application's Interface
> who is enhancing the Theme properties capability. If we want to define
> Custom Widgets,we must be familiar with Javascript,Qooxdoo,SWT, RAP
> knowledge ect. It's a trouble thing. I only wanna to implement a login page
> as normal as html page. I wanna to set background image for whole
> composite, fill gradient for the page, don't show the button border. It
> provides the Theme which change the whole Element Style is too uglily.
> Because it's comfortable. But RAP can't give us that for the moment. How
> could we do? we have to write JAVA class,Javascript , XML ect. step by
> step. When can we develop the RAP application as convenience as RCP. I hope
> it's not a long time.
>
> ALLEN
>
> 2008-03-03
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| Re: What's the matter with RAP? [message #76316 is a reply to message #76300] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 13:22 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
Oliver,
I agree. I find the behavior, as the English expression goes, of
looking the gift horse in the mouth to be an annoying one. It's open
source. It's free. And it's already very cool. So if it doesn't do what
you want already, get involved and help make it better. If you have
constructive criticism, share it with sensitivity: state all criticism
in the form of a constructive suggestion. Otherwise, go buy product and
complain to their sales team; you'll be paying them to listen. :-P
Poncho wrote:
> Hi Allen,
> I really don't understand you point of view.
> The RAP Framework gives you everything you need in order to make really
> cool and exciting web applications. Nobody claims that the development
> of RAP
> has been finished and nobody claims that RAP is able to fulfill every
> whish that a
> developer has.
> Right now RAP is providing everything a standard developer should need.
> If you come to the point where you'd like to do more, then it is your
> responsibility to extend your knowledge with the technology you need,
> to achieve
> your goal.
> We are not talking about bugs but about features. If you are
> unsatisfied with
> the features you've been provided with, you are free to develop it by
> yourself and commit
> your part to the community.
>
> That's how it works!!!
>
> Regards
>
> Oliver
>
>
> allen schrieb:
>> HI ALL:
>> Is there anyone implement to define Custom widgets in RAP?
>> We can't set background images for composite or other containers. It's a
>> disappointing things to developper.
>> Although RAP Team said we can define Custom widgets or use Theme
>> properties
>> to improve our application's Interface who is enhancing the Theme
>> properties capability. If we want to define
>> Custom Widgets,we must be familiar with Javascript,Qooxdoo,SWT, RAP
>> knowledge ect. It's a trouble thing. I only wanna to implement a
>> login page
>> as normal as html page. I wanna to set background image for whole
>> composite, fill gradient for the page, don't show the button border. It
>> provides the Theme which change the whole Element Style is too uglily.
>> Because it's comfortable. But RAP can't give us that for the moment. How
>> could we do? we have to write JAVA class,Javascript , XML ect. step by
>> step. When can we develop the RAP application as convenience as RCP.
>> I hope
>> it's not a long time.
>>
>> ALLEN
>>
>> 2008-03-03
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| Re: What's the matter with RAP? [message #76464 is a reply to message #76316] |
Tue, 04 March 2008 01:36 |
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Originally posted by: allen_liu.i-len.com
Ed Merks wrote:
> Otherwise
Hi All:
Sorry everyone. Thanks RAP-Team developing this excellent Framework.
I apologized to everyone sincerely.
ALLEN
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