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Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76103]

Mon, 03 January 2005 18:06

Eclipse User

I wonder how to use the VE to edit WizardPages, Views, etc.
These classes seem not to count as visual classes in the VE terminology,
because they usually are NOT derived from swt.Composite.

So how can I tell the VE Visual Class Editor to do its deed
within the createControl(Composite parent) method?

Thanks,

Bernd

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76167 is a reply to message #76103]

Tue, 04 January 2005 11:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

We don't yet support the JFace classes. Only the straight SWT classes.
We will be working on this.

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76199 is a reply to message #76103]

Tue, 04 January 2005 15:25

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: Lamont_Gilbert.rigidsoftware.com

Bernd Hofner wrote:
> I wonder how to use the VE to edit WizardPages, Views, etc.
> These classes seem not to count as visual classes in the VE terminology,
> because they usually are NOT derived from swt.Composite.
>
> So how can I tell the VE Visual Class Editor to do its deed
> within the createControl(Composite parent) method?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bernd
>
>
>
you have to create your own composite, and use that in your custom wizard.

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Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76215 is a reply to message #76167]

Tue, 04 January 2005 17:41

Eclipse User

Hi Rich,

in other words, VE is currently useless for developing Eclipse plugins or
Eclipse RCP applications.
Strange. I would have expected that this would be your first priority (and
supporting the Swing stuff later on...).

I had a look at Jigloo, but that seems to have the same "problem".
Does anyone know if there exists a GUI builder that is usable to build
plugins/RCP apps?

Thanks,

Bernd

"Rich Kulp" <richkulp@us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:crehof$hiu$1@www.eclipse.org...
> We don't yet support the JFace classes. Only the straight SWT classes.
> We will be working on this.
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Rich Kulp

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76231 is a reply to message #76215]

Tue, 04 January 2005 18:27

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

We already had a Swing editor in IBM WSAD, that was migrated to Eclipse
when we became open source. At the same time as we migrated we also
started working on SWT (JFACE uses SWT, so we needed SWT before we could
do JFace). JFace has a very different coding pattern than either SWT or
Swing so it made the very hard to do SWT and JFace at the same time. We
are only a team of five people, so we did what we could. :-(

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76246 is a reply to message #76215]

Wed, 05 January 2005 08:53

Eclipse User

"Bernd Hofner" <bernd.hofner@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:crf629$mkd$1@www.eclipse.org...
>
> I had a look at Jigloo, but that seems to have the same "problem".
> Does anyone know if there exists a GUI builder that is usable to build
> plugins/RCP apps?

Yes. SWT Designer has complete support for creating Eclipse plugin UIs and
RCP apps (as well as standalone SWT and Swing apps).

http://www.swt-designer.com/

With SWT Designer, you can create and edit wizard pages, dialogs, JFace app
windows, preference & property pages, view parts & edit parts, etc.

http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_wizardpage.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_titleareadialog.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_applicationwindow.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_eclipse_preferencepage.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_eclipse_viewpart.html

Designer also supports the Eclipse Forms API (including all widgets and
special layout managers) as well as specialized libraries like preference
page field editors.

http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_forms_formpage.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html#FieldEditors
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html#EclipseForms

Designer also supports all of the standard SWT widgets and layout managers
(including FormLayout) and all of the JFace viewers (like TableViewer,
CheckboxTreeViewer, etc.). It also has excellent internationalization
support, many different code generation options and the ability to reverse
engineer almost any GUI code created by other tools or by hand.

http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/tutorial/For mLayout.htm
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/nls/nls.html
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/preferences/ preferences.html

Note that Designer is a commercial tool with a $199 list price (lower cost
NC and academic licenses are available). A free, feature-limited edition is
also available as is a time-limited eval version of the entire product (for
Eclipse 2.1, 3.0 or 3.1).

http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/download.html

-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.swt-designer.com

Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76262 is a reply to message #76231]

Wed, 05 January 2005 13:08

Eclipse User

Sorry, I didn't intend to appear complaining...
I'll keep looking in your direction, as what I saw from VE did look quite
promising.

Thanks for your work!

bernd

"Rich Kulp" <richkulp@us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:crf8pk$uko$1@www.eclipse.org...
> We already had a Swing editor in IBM WSAD, that was migrated to Eclipse
> when we became open source. At the same time as we migrated we also
> started working on SWT (JFACE uses SWT, so we needed SWT before we could
> do JFace). JFace has a very different coding pattern than either SWT or
> Swing so it made the very hard to do SWT and JFace at the same time. We
> are only a team of five people, so we did what we could. :-(
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Rich Kulp

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76278 is a reply to message #76246]

Wed, 05 January 2005 13:10

Eclipse User

Hmmm, sounds good.
I already bought your book, don't I get the Designer for free ;-) ??

Bernd

"Eric Clayberg" <clayberg@instantiations.com> wrote in message
news:crgrfv$oc2$1@www.eclipse.org...
> "Bernd Hofner" <bernd.hofner@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:crf629$mkd$1@www.eclipse.org...
> >
> > I had a look at Jigloo, but that seems to have the same "problem".
> > Does anyone know if there exists a GUI builder that is usable to build
> > plugins/RCP apps?
>
> Yes. SWT Designer has complete support for creating Eclipse plugin UIs and
> RCP apps (as well as standalone SWT and Swing apps).
>
> http://www.swt-designer.com/
>
> With SWT Designer, you can create and edit wizard pages, dialogs, JFace
app
> windows, preference & property pages, view parts & edit parts, etc.
>
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_wizardp
age.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_titlear
eadialog.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_jface_applica
tionwindow.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_eclipse_prefe
rencepage.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_eclipse_viewp
art.html
>
> Designer also supports the Eclipse Forms API (including all widgets and
> special layout managers) as well as specialized libraries like preference
> page field editors.
>
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/wizards/wiza rd_forms_formpag
e.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html#Field
Editors
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html#Eclip
seForms
>
> Designer also supports all of the standard SWT widgets and layout managers
> (including FormLayout) and all of the JFace viewers (like TableViewer,
> CheckboxTreeViewer, etc.). It also has excellent internationalization
> support, many different code generation options and the ability to reverse
> engineer almost any GUI code created by other tools or by hand.
>
> http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/tutorial/For mLayout.htm
> http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/palettes/pal ettes.html
> http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/nls/nls.html
>
http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/docs/preferences/ preferences.html
>
> Note that Designer is a commercial tool with a $199 list price (lower cost
> NC and academic licenses are available). A free, feature-limited edition
is
> also available as is a time-limited eval version of the entire product
(for
> Eclipse 2.1, 3.0 or 3.1).
>
> http://www.instantiations.com/swt-designer/download.html
>
> -Eric Clayberg
> Sr. Vice President of Product Development
> Instantiations, Inc.
> http://www.instantiations.com
> http://www.swt-designer.com
>
> Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
> http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472
>
>

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #76534 is a reply to message #76103]

Wed, 12 January 2005 18:01

Eclipse User

Bernd Hofner wrote:
> I wonder how to use the VE to edit WizardPages, Views, etc.
> These classes seem not to count as visual classes in the VE terminology,
> because they usually are NOT derived from swt.Composite.
>
> So how can I tell the VE Visual Class Editor to do its deed
> within the createControl(Composite parent) method?

In my experience, it's not that big a deal just to use VE to create and
edit Composite-derived objects, then use these inside wizards, views, etc.

Regards,

Dave Orme
--
Visual Editor Project leader
db4objects Senior Engineer (www.db4o.com)
Essential Data Project maintainer

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #77476 is a reply to message #76167]

Mon, 17 January 2005 11:31

Eclipse User

Rich Kulp wrote:
> We don't yet support the JFace classes. Only the straight SWT classes.
> We will be working on this.
>
>
You can create a customed composite by extending a Composite and Layout
your SWT GUI there.

The createControl() of your page can than instantiate the customed
composite.

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #604259 is a reply to message #76103]

Tue, 04 January 2005 11:54

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

We don't yet support the JFace classes. Only the straight SWT classes.
We will be working on this.

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp

Re: Using VE to edit WizardPages et al [message #604269 is a reply to message #76103]

Tue, 04 January 2005 15:25

Eclipse User