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[Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74206]

Wed, 14 June 2006 14:21

Eclipse User

I'm running Eclipse 3.2 RC7 and I've installed the TPTP features as
found under the "Testing and Performance" category following the
Callisto Discovery Site, except "TPTP Reporting with BIRT" and "TPTP
Profiling for Web applications". Now I'm looking dumb but I don't
find any profiler entry to start, the "run with clock" button I see
on the screenshots:

http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/platform/documents/speed_profili ng/speedUpProfiling.html

What I'm missing?

--
Stanimir

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74226 is a reply to message #74206]

Wed, 14 June 2006 16:05

Eclipse User

/Stanimir Stamenkov/:

> I'm running Eclipse 3.2 RC7 and I've installed the TPTP features as
> found under the "Testing and Performance" category following the
> Callisto Discovery Site...

O.k. What I've installed appears as development version 4.2. I've
now taken a safer approach and installed TPTP 4.1.0.1 - I see the
"Run > Profile" entries. I'm still unable to launch profile
successfully - I get 'An internal error occurred during:
"launching".' with no additional details. I'll see what I could be
missing reading from the documentation.

--
Stanimir

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74279 is a reply to message #74226]

Wed, 14 June 2006 17:01

Eclipse User

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> /Stanimir Stamenkov/:
>
>> I'm running Eclipse 3.2 RC7 and I've installed the TPTP features as
>> found under the "Testing and Performance" category following the
>> Callisto Discovery Site...
>
>
> O.k. What I've installed appears as development version 4.2. I've now
> taken a safer approach and installed TPTP 4.1.0.1 - I see the "Run >
> Profile" entries. I'm still unable to launch profile successfully - I
> get 'An internal error occurred during: "launching".' with no additional
> details. I'll see what I could be missing reading from the documentation.
>

But Eclipse 3.2 RC7 is a "development version" as well. You don't want
to mix-and-match. If you want 3.2 RC7, go back to 4.2 (preferably the
very latest stable build to go with 3.2RC7)... or if you want to go back
to stable TPTP 4.1.0.1, make sure you adhere to the Requirements section
for that release (Eclipse 3.1.2 I think it was).

So you started with Eclipse 3.2 RC7... platform or SDK? Then you went
and installed the TPTP from the Callisto Discovery... good...good... I
presume you went through the pages that allow you to checkmark TPTP, and
accept the licensing, and override the "are you sure you want to
install" with "Install All", all the way up to the time that it
suggested you restart the workbench... right? On restarting the
workbench, what perspective are you in? Do you have a project in hand?

If I just start up RC7 with a working TPTP (I use it often; I know it
works) but with a new workspace, I'm in a Resource perspective with no
TPTP showing. If I switch to the Java perspective, even with no project,
I see the TPTP Profile launch button as you describe ("run with clock").
If you don't see that in Java mode... you might want to shut down and
restart by adding "-clean" to your startup invocation (Properties =>
Target on the Eclipse icon if in Windows...). If that doesn't work,
you'll need to check your Eclipse .metadata logfile to see if something
died on start-up.

This has been working well for me (and many others) for a while now on
Eclipse 3.2 w/TPTP 4.2 ... but there are "windows" where things have
been potentially broken as we've migrated from one Release Candidate
(RC) to another on the Eclipse mirrors... you might have accidentally
hit one of those windows. This Callisto release (Eclipse 3.2, TPTP 4.2,
and a host of others) *is* "in development" and not yet officially
released after all!

Let me know if I can help you get any further after you decide which
path you want to take!

--
RDS

Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74354 is a reply to message #74279]

Thu, 15 June 2006 04:28

Eclipse User

/Randy D. Smith/:

> But Eclipse 3.2 RC7 is a "development version" as well. You don't want
> to mix-and-match. If you want 3.2 RC7, go back to 4.2 (preferably the
> very latest stable build to go with 3.2RC7)...

You're correct I shouldn't have mix-and-matched those. Because I
like many improvements in the upcoming Eclipse 3.2 release I've
decided to go with TPTP 4.2. I've downloaded the latest stable
release from the TPTP site and it finally worked - thanks for your
suggestions and support.

Previously I haven't noticed the "4.2.0" link on the downloads [1]
page as it is somewhat obfuscated in between "3.0.1.2" and "1.0.4.1"
links, i.e. doesn't follow the general order.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/downloads.php

--
Stanimir

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74425 is a reply to message #74354]

Fri, 16 June 2006 02:45

Eclipse User

Hello!

Stanimir Stamenkov schrieb:
>> But Eclipse 3.2 RC7 is a "development version" as well. You don't want
>> to mix-and-match. If you want 3.2 RC7, go back to 4.2 (preferably the
>> very latest stable build to go with 3.2RC7)...
> You're correct I shouldn't have mix-and-matched those. Because I like
> many improvements in the upcoming Eclipse 3.2 release I've decided to go
> with TPTP 4.2. I've downloaded the latest stable release from the TPTP
> site and it finally worked - thanks for your suggestions and support.
>
> Previously I haven't noticed the "4.2.0" link on the downloads [1] page
> as it is somewhat obfuscated in between "3.0.1.2" and "1.0.4.1" links,
> i.e. doesn't follow the general order.
>
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/downloads.php

I've just run into the same problem. I'm using RC7 and installed the
Callisto version of TPTP via the update manager but I neighter have a
logging and profiling perspective nor the "Profile as >"
menuitem/button. There is a "Analysis" button though.

This happen both on linux and on windows.

Does this mean that the Calisto version doesn't work yet and I should
install the latest TPTP manually?

Thanks in advance,

Regards,
Sebastian

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74478 is a reply to message #74425]

Fri, 16 June 2006 12:15

Eclipse User

Sebastian Bauer wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Stanimir Stamenkov schrieb:
>
>>> But Eclipse 3.2 RC7 is a "development version" as well. You don't
>>> want to mix-and-match. If you want 3.2 RC7, go back to 4.2
>>> (preferably the very latest stable build to go with 3.2RC7)...
>>
>> You're correct I shouldn't have mix-and-matched those. Because I like
>> many improvements in the upcoming Eclipse 3.2 release I've decided to
>> go with TPTP 4.2. I've downloaded the latest stable release from the
>> TPTP site and it finally worked - thanks for your suggestions and
>> support.
>>
>> Previously I haven't noticed the "4.2.0" link on the downloads [1]
>> page as it is somewhat obfuscated in between "3.0.1.2" and "1.0.4.1"
>> links, i.e. doesn't follow the general order.
>>
>> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/downloads.php
>
>
> I've just run into the same problem. I'm using RC7 and installed the
> Callisto version of TPTP via the update manager but I neighter have a
> logging and profiling perspective nor the "Profile as >"
> menuitem/button. There is a "Analysis" button though.
>
> This happen both on linux and on windows.
>
> Does this mean that the Calisto version doesn't work yet and I should
> install the latest TPTP manually?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian

I installed the RC7 *platform* (did you start from there? or from the
RC7 SDK install? just curious... looking for differences in our
situations) and then used the update manager to get *everything*. TPTP
works for me in that case. Did you *just* get TPTP? Did you hit the "Get
Required" (I think that is it) to make sure all dependencies were
satisfied? In particular, TPTP requires at least the EMF&XSD components
(hmmm.... just noticed on the download page for TPTP that we say EMF&XSD
*SDKs* ... I'll go check on that... weird... I don't think SDKs are
distributed via Callisto). Can you check and see if it appears EMF and
XSD are there?

Analysis is the "Static Analysis" part of TPTP ... so *some* of TPTP is
there. You say no Profiling and Logging Perspective is there ... at
all?? You've tried the "Other..." under the perspectives and checked the
list? (Sorry if I'm belaboring the obvious here... just checking all bases.)

I'll go check with the TPTP project folk about that SDK question...
please check on the things I mentioned above if you would and get back
to me with some more info if you have any. As it stands now, we really
need to find out why this isn't working for you... the point of the
Callisto release is this is just supposed to be there when you ask for
the components you want. That it isn't working for me means we either
need to fix it (if we have a problem) or understand the pilot error if
you've missed something along the way.
--
RDS

Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74496 is a reply to message #74354]

Fri, 16 June 2006 13:58

Eclipse User

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> /Randy D. Smith/:
>
>> But Eclipse 3.2 RC7 is a "development version" as well. You don't want
>> to mix-and-match. If you want 3.2 RC7, go back to 4.2 (preferably the
>> very latest stable build to go with 3.2RC7)...
>
>
> You're correct I shouldn't have mix-and-matched those. Because I like
> many improvements in the upcoming Eclipse 3.2 release I've decided to go
> with TPTP 4.2. I've downloaded the latest stable release from the TPTP
> site and it finally worked - thanks for your suggestions and support.
>
> Previously I haven't noticed the "4.2.0" link on the downloads [1] page
> as it is somewhat obfuscated in between "3.0.1.2" and "1.0.4.1" links,
> i.e. doesn't follow the general order.
>
> [1] http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/downloads.php
>

I concur with your assessment of the difficulty finding the "latest
development version", so I filed an enhancement request (bug 147490, <
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=147490 >) to that end.

--
RDS

Randy D. Smith randy (dot) d (dot) smith (at) intel (dot) com
Eclipse TPTP Committer, Platform Proj (data collection/agent controller)

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74531 is a reply to message #74478]

Fri, 16 June 2006 17:17

Eclipse User

Hi!

Randy D. Smith schrieb:
> I installed the RC7 *platform* (did you start from there? or from the
> RC7 SDK install? just curious... looking for differences in our
> situations) and then used the update manager to get *everything*. TPTP
> works for me in that case. Did you *just* get TPTP? Did you hit the "Get
> Required" (I think that is it) to make sure all dependencies were
> satisfied?

I just clickled on TPTP and then pressed the "Get Required" button. And
I tried with a clean installation.

> In particular, TPTP requires at least the EMF&XSD components
> (hmmm.... just noticed on the download page for TPTP that we say EMF&XSD
> *SDKs* ... I'll go check on that... weird... I don't think SDKs are
> distributed via Callisto). Can you check and see if it appears EMF and
> XSD are there?

Yes, both were there (but not the SDKs).

> Analysis is the "Static Analysis" part of TPTP ... so *some* of TPTP is
> there. You say no Profiling and Logging Perspective is there ... at
> all?? You've tried the "Other..." under the perspectives and checked the
> list? (Sorry if I'm belaboring the obvious here... just checking all
> bases.)

Yes, did that. No logging perspective was choosable.

> I'll go check with the TPTP project folk about that SDK question...
> please check on the things I mentioned above if you would and get back
> to me with some more info if you have any.

> As it stands now, we really
> need to find out why this isn't working for you... the point of the
> Callisto release is this is just supposed to be there when you ask for
> the components you want. That it isn't working for me means we either
> need to fix it (if we have a problem) or understand the pilot error if
> you've missed something along the way.

I've just tried the latest developer version of TFTP downloadable from
the TPTP page. I installed it on a fresh eclipse installation together
with the required plugins (taken from Callistio). With that version I
finally can see the buttons and the choose the logging perspective.

Ciao,
Sebastian

Re: [Newbie] Help starting the Java profiler [message #74893 is a reply to message #74425]

Wed, 21 June 2006 22:46

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: mankiko.gmail.com

I was having the exact same problem...
What fixed it for me was installing the TPTP Profiling for Web
applications package (I had only installed 3 of the 4 the first time
around).
The Run w/clock icon wouldn't show up until the Web app package was
installed.

Hopefully someone will find this useful.

Thanks for the tips!
Dave

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