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| Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #69148] |
Tue, 26 October 2004 12:30  |
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Originally posted by: morelli_luca.hotmail.com
Hi guys, I'm new to this community so I hope you're gonna be patient with
me . As I stated in the topic my dilemma is whether using JGraph or
Eclipse. The use would be aimed to develop a graphical tool allowing to
map the behavior of an object sketching its statechart. I know there is a
library for JGraph allowing the use of the statechart. What I don't know
is whether such a kind of library (or add-on) does exist for Eclipse.
Furthermore, should exist someone who knows both tools, I'd need of some
advices to choose one of twos for the developing of my application (given
the existance of the statechart module).
Thanks in advance
With all the best regards
Luca
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| Re: Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #69529 is a reply to message #69306] |
Sat, 30 October 2004 12:54  |
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Originally posted by: nikivancic.yahoo.com
Hello, Joe
I have a more general question from the same category:
At least at the moment, most of the Java UI toolkits (Infragistics, Quest,
ILOG, etc)
are written on top of Swing. I am not even aware of any SWT based products,
but
I have not searched very deep. The Eclipse team clearly understand this
situation
by offering equal support for Swing and SWT in the context of using Eclipse
as an
IDE.
The situation is not so nicely symmetric once the context changes to the
PDE, since
Eclipse itself is SWT based. Suppose that I want to use ILOG's JViews as the
tool to create some editors and views in my PDE. It seems that there is no
provision
for that. True?
Thanks in advance
Nik Ivancic
"Joe Winchester" <winchest@uk.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:clr2rv$f3d$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi Luca,
>
>> Hi guys, I'm new to this community so I hope you're gonna be patient with
>> me . As I stated in the topic my dilemma is whether using JGraph or
>> Eclipse. The use would be aimed to develop a graphical tool allowing to
>> map the behavior of an object sketching its statechart. I know there is a
>> library for JGraph allowing the use of the statechart. What I don't know
>> is whether such a kind of library (or add-on) does exist for Eclipse.
>> Furthermore, should exist someone who knows both tools, I'd need of some
>> advices to choose one of twos for the developing of my application (given
>> the existance of the statechart module).
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> For what you want I suggest you look at using GEF which is the graphical
> editor framework that is used by VE and many other Eclipse based drawing
> tools. It's a lightweight drawing framework and you can find out more
> about it on eclipse.org/gef.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joe Winchester
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| Re: Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #69925 is a reply to message #69529] |
Wed, 03 November 2004 15:09 |
| Eclipse User |
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Nik Ivancic wrote:
> Hello, Joe
>
> I have a more general question from the same category:
>
> At least at the moment, most of the Java UI toolkits (Infragistics, Quest,
> ILOG, etc)
> are written on top of Swing. I am not even aware of any SWT based products,
> but
> I have not searched very deep.
If you're looking for a data validation and binding framework for SWT
controls, you might want to try http://www.swtworkbench.com.
I'm its chief architect, so feel free to email me directly with any
questions you have.
> The Eclipse team clearly understand this
> situation
> by offering equal support for Swing and SWT in the context of using Eclipse
> as an
> IDE.
The Eclipse solution is the JFace framework, which is fine if what you
want is a totally general solution. But if you restrict your problem
domain to just database-like data, the coding model can be made much
easier. This is what we've tried to do with SWTworkbench Essential
Data, and we'd love your feedback on if we've been successful!
> The situation is not so nicely symmetric once the context changes to the
> PDE, since
> Eclipse itself is SWT based. Suppose that I want to use ILOG's JViews as the
> tool to create some editors and views in my PDE. It seems that there is no
> provision
> for that. True?
True.
Warmest regards,
Dave Orme
--
Dave Orme
Eclipse Visual Editor Project Lead
Advanced Systems Concepts' Chief Architect
http://www.swtworkbench.com http://essentialdata.sf.net
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| Re: Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #602383 is a reply to message #69148] |
Thu, 28 October 2004 11:22 |
| Eclipse User |
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Hi Luca,
> Hi guys, I'm new to this community so I hope you're gonna be patient with
> me . As I stated in the topic my dilemma is whether using JGraph or
> Eclipse. The use would be aimed to develop a graphical tool allowing to
> map the behavior of an object sketching its statechart. I know there is a
> library for JGraph allowing the use of the statechart. What I don't know
> is whether such a kind of library (or add-on) does exist for Eclipse.
> Furthermore, should exist someone who knows both tools, I'd need of some
> advices to choose one of twos for the developing of my application (given
> the existance of the statechart module).
For what you want I suggest you look at using GEF which is the graphical
editor framework that is used by VE and many other Eclipse based drawing
tools. It's a lightweight drawing framework and you can find out more
about it on eclipse.org/gef.
Best regards,
Joe Winchester
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| Re: Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #602444 is a reply to message #69306] |
Sat, 30 October 2004 12:54 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: nikivancic.yahoo.com
Hello, Joe
I have a more general question from the same category:
At least at the moment, most of the Java UI toolkits (Infragistics, Quest,
ILOG, etc)
are written on top of Swing. I am not even aware of any SWT based products,
but
I have not searched very deep. The Eclipse team clearly understand this
situation
by offering equal support for Swing and SWT in the context of using Eclipse
as an
IDE.
The situation is not so nicely symmetric once the context changes to the
PDE, since
Eclipse itself is SWT based. Suppose that I want to use ILOG's JViews as the
tool to create some editors and views in my PDE. It seems that there is no
provision
for that. True?
Thanks in advance
Nik Ivancic
"Joe Winchester" <winchest@uk.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:clr2rv$f3d$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi Luca,
>
>> Hi guys, I'm new to this community so I hope you're gonna be patient with
>> me . As I stated in the topic my dilemma is whether using JGraph or
>> Eclipse. The use would be aimed to develop a graphical tool allowing to
>> map the behavior of an object sketching its statechart. I know there is a
>> library for JGraph allowing the use of the statechart. What I don't know
>> is whether such a kind of library (or add-on) does exist for Eclipse.
>> Furthermore, should exist someone who knows both tools, I'd need of some
>> advices to choose one of twos for the developing of my application (given
>> the existance of the statechart module).
>
> For what you want I suggest you look at using GEF which is the graphical
> editor framework that is used by VE and many other Eclipse based drawing
> tools. It's a lightweight drawing framework and you can find out more
> about it on eclipse.org/gef.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joe Winchester
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| Re: Eclipse or JGraph ??? [message #602580 is a reply to message #69529] |
Wed, 03 November 2004 15:09 |
| Eclipse User |
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Nik Ivancic wrote:
> Hello, Joe
>
> I have a more general question from the same category:
>
> At least at the moment, most of the Java UI toolkits (Infragistics, Quest,
> ILOG, etc)
> are written on top of Swing. I am not even aware of any SWT based products,
> but
> I have not searched very deep.
If you're looking for a data validation and binding framework for SWT
controls, you might want to try http://www.swtworkbench.com
I'm its chief architect, so feel free to email me directly with any
questions you have.
> The Eclipse team clearly understand this
> situation
> by offering equal support for Swing and SWT in the context of using Eclipse
> as an
> IDE.
The Eclipse solution is the JFace framework, which is fine if what you
want is a totally general solution. But if you restrict your problem
domain to just database-like data, the coding model can be made much
easier. This is what we've tried to do with SWTworkbench Essential
Data, and we'd love your feedback on if we've been successful!
> The situation is not so nicely symmetric once the context changes to the
> PDE, since
> Eclipse itself is SWT based. Suppose that I want to use ILOG's JViews as the
> tool to create some editors and views in my PDE. It seems that there is no
> provision
> for that. True?
True.
Warmest regards,
Dave Orme
--
Dave Orme
Eclipse Visual Editor Project Lead
Advanced Systems Concepts' Chief Architect
http://www.swtworkbench.com http://essentialdata.sf.net
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