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[Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687171] Thu, 09 June 2011 13:11 Go to next message
Alain Picard is currently offline Alain PicardFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi Eike,

I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress monitoring
(with ECF as our remote provider implementation).

I ended up on an old article on Net4j
(http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html)
and it's reference to bugzilla
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about
using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.

I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.

So, here's my questions:
1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote progress
monitoring in this context?

2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server that
we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?

3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete
this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that route?

Thanks
Alain
Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687173 is a reply to message #687171] Thu, 09 June 2011 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eike Stepper is currently offline Eike StepperFriend
Messages: 6445
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Alain,

Comments below...


Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
> Hi Eike,
>
> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>
> I ended up on an old article on Net4j (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html) and it's reference to bugzilla https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>
> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked at it for years.

>
> So, here's my questions:
> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote progress monitoring in this context?
Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective, convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy remote progress monitoring can be with it.

>
> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a single transport connection.

>
> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that route?
What route exactly? What is the goal?

Cheers
/Eike

----
http://www.esc-net.de
http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper


Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687174 is a reply to message #687173] Thu, 09 June 2011 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alain Picard is currently offline Alain PicardFriend
Messages: 223
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks Eike

See below

On 6/9/2011 12:29 PM, Eike Stepper wrote:
> Hi Alain,
>
> Comments below...
>
>
> Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
>> Hi Eike,
>>
>> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress
>> monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>>
>> I ended up on an old article on Net4j
>> (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html)
>> and it's reference to bugzilla
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about
>> using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>>
>> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
> Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked
> at it for years.
>
>>
>> So, here's my questions:
>> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote
>> progress monitoring in this context?
> Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective,
> convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy
> remote progress monitoring can be with it.
>
>>
>> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server
>> that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
> Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an
> ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save
> socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a
> single transport connection.
>
>>
>> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete
>> this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that
>> route?
> What route exactly? What is the goal?
The route of resurrecting the Net4j/ECF provider in a correct way and
implement a remote monitoring solution for those remote OSGI services.
>
> Cheers
> /Eike
>
> ----
> http://www.esc-net.de
> http://thegordian.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/eikestepper
>
>
Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687175 is a reply to message #687174] Thu, 09 June 2011 18:18 Go to previous message
Eike Stepper is currently offline Eike StepperFriend
Messages: 6445
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Am 09.06.2011 20:04, schrieb Alain Picard:
> Thanks Eike
>
> See below
>
> On 6/9/2011 12:29 PM, Eike Stepper wrote:
>> Hi Alain,
>>
>> Comments below...
>>
>>
>> Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
>>> Hi Eike,
>>>
>>> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress
>>> monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>>>
>>> I ended up on an old article on Net4j
>>> (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html)
>>> and it's reference to bugzilla
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about
>>> using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>>>
>>> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
>> Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked
>> at it for years.
>>
>>>
>>> So, here's my questions:
>>> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote
>>> progress monitoring in this context?
>> Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective,
>> convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy
>> remote progress monitoring can be with it.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server
>>> that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
>> Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an
>> ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save
>> socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a
>> single transport connection.
>>
>>>
>>> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete
>>> this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that
>>> route?
>> What route exactly? What is the goal?
> The route of resurrecting the Net4j/ECF provider in a correct way and implement a remote monitoring solution for those remote OSGI services.
I see. Unfortunately I can not afford "gratis time" for this work. Of course I could assist with knowledge about Net4j and the existing (old) integration...

Cheers
/Eike

----
http://www.esc-net.de
http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper


Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687428 is a reply to message #687171] Thu, 09 June 2011 16:29 Go to previous message
Eike Stepper is currently offline Eike StepperFriend
Messages: 6445
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Alain,

Comments below...


Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
> Hi Eike,
>
> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>
> I ended up on an old article on Net4j (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html) and it's reference to bugzilla https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>
> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked at it for years.

>
> So, here's my questions:
> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote progress monitoring in this context?
Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective, convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy remote progress monitoring can be with it.

>
> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a single transport connection.

>
> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that route?
What route exactly? What is the goal?

Cheers
/Eike

----
http://www.esc-net.de
http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper


Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687429 is a reply to message #687173] Thu, 09 June 2011 18:04 Go to previous message
Alain Picard is currently offline Alain PicardFriend
Messages: 223
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Thanks Eike

See below

On 6/9/2011 12:29 PM, Eike Stepper wrote:
> Hi Alain,
>
> Comments below...
>
>
> Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
>> Hi Eike,
>>
>> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress
>> monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>>
>> I ended up on an old article on Net4j
>> (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html)
>> and it's reference to bugzilla
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about
>> using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>>
>> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
> Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked
> at it for years.
>
>>
>> So, here's my questions:
>> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote
>> progress monitoring in this context?
> Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective,
> convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy
> remote progress monitoring can be with it.
>
>>
>> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server
>> that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
> Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an
> ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save
> socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a
> single transport connection.
>
>>
>> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete
>> this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that
>> route?
> What route exactly? What is the goal?
The route of resurrecting the Net4j/ECF provider in a correct way and
implement a remote monitoring solution for those remote OSGI services.
>
> Cheers
> /Eike
>
> ----
> http://www.esc-net.de
> http://thegordian.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/eikestepper
>
>
Re: [Net4j] Using with ECF and Remote progress monitoring [message #687430 is a reply to message #687174] Thu, 09 June 2011 18:18 Go to previous message
Eike Stepper is currently offline Eike StepperFriend
Messages: 6445
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Am 09.06.2011 20:04, schrieb Alain Picard:
> Thanks Eike
>
> See below
>
> On 6/9/2011 12:29 PM, Eike Stepper wrote:
>> Hi Alain,
>>
>> Comments below...
>>
>>
>> Am 09.06.2011 15:11, schrieb Alain Picard:
>>> Hi Eike,
>>>
>>> I was looking for a possible solution to remote OSGI progress
>>> monitoring (with ECF as our remote provider implementation).
>>>
>>> I ended up on an old article on Net4j
>>> (http://thegordian.blogspot.com/2008/12/remoting-with-iprogressmonitor.html)
>>> and it's reference to bugzilla
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203406 that talks about
>>> using Net4j as a remote service transport provider for ECF.
>>>
>>> I see some activity up to last fall on restarting this effort.
>> Neither we nor the ECF team has put much effort in it. I haven't looked
>> at it for years.
>>
>>>
>>> So, here's my questions:
>>> 1. Do you see Net4j has a good candidate to achieve this remote
>>> progress monitoring in this context?
>> Certainly. Net4j is a very flexible and, from a developer perspective,
>> convenient communications solution. And my old blog shows how easy
>> remote progress monitoring can be with it.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. Do you see possible shared advantages (or issues) if the server
>>> that we are connecting to also serves as a CDO Server?
>> Only advantages. From the perspective of a Net4j server CDO is "just" an
>> ISignalProtocol like others, e.g. your own ones. You'll be able to save
>> socket connections because Net4j multiplexes several protocols through a
>> single transport connection.
>>
>>>
>>> 3. How complicated and involved do you estimate the effort to complete
>>> this. We can help but would you be available to mentor if we go that
>>> route?
>> What route exactly? What is the goal?
> The route of resurrecting the Net4j/ECF provider in a correct way and implement a remote monitoring solution for those remote OSGI services.
I see. Unfortunately I can not afford "gratis time" for this work. Of course I could assist with knowledge about Net4j and the existing (old) integration...

Cheers
/Eike

----
http://www.esc-net.de
http://thegordian.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/eikestepper


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