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Mon, 09 June 2003 17:32

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: song.chen.cloakware.com

I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
Appreciate any comments.
CS

Re: IDE is slower? [message #68483 is a reply to message #68419]

Mon, 09 June 2003 19:21

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: adam.kiezun.gmx.net.remove

what's slower?
CS, i'm afraid you will need to be a little more precise for us to be able to
give you any sort of a useful answer.

a.
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eclipse.org

Re: IDE is slower? [message #68558 is a reply to message #68419]

Mon, 09 June 2003 22:10

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: substring0NOSPAM.hotmail.com

I have used both Eclipse and JBuilder 8 Enterprise, and they are able the
same speed. Your experience might be isolated.

Re: IDE is slower? [message #68762 is a reply to message #68419]

Tue, 10 June 2003 02:36

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: bob.objfac.com

What platform are you running on? What version of Eclipse?

Bob

"song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote in message
news:bc2v84$40d$1@rogue.oti.com...
> I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
> slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
> Appreciate any comments.
> CS
>
>

Re: IDE is slower? [message #68783 is a reply to message #68419]

Tue, 10 June 2003 03:04

Eclipse User

"song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote:

> I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
> slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
> Appreciate any comments.

There seem to be several problems to me.

One is the start up time.

Another is the constant background compilation - which stops
Eclipse from responding to its own user interface. There's
a proposal to fix this.

Then there's the way Eclipse gets slower and slower with use.
I suspect garbage accumulation is responsible for that. As
to where the objects in question are coming from I don't know.
Perhaps running of a decent IBM JVM might help here ;-)
My solution there is to reboot Eclipse from time to time.

Then there's the sluggishness that comes with context shifts.
These are probably something to do with Eclipse being so huge.

At the moment I suspect Eclipse is a good reason to buy a
new machine for many developers.
--
__________
|im |yler http://timtyler.org/ tim@tt1.org

Re: IDE is slower? [message #68802 is a reply to message #68483]

Tue, 10 June 2003 03:53

Eclipse User

Aftre upgrade I20030520 to M1 3.0, I`v note that Java (and text?) editor
becames slightly slower.
I have used eclipse on Sun JDK 1.3.1_06 on WinXP.
--
andrew

"Adam Kiezun" <adam.kiezun@gmx.net.remove> wrote in message
news:bc34qe$797$1@rogue.oti.com...
> what's slower?
> CS, i'm afraid you will need to be a little more precise for us to be able
to
> give you any sort of a useful answer.
>
> a.
> --
> eclipse.org
>
>
>

Re: IDE is slower? [message #70720 is a reply to message #68419]

Wed, 11 June 2003 09:10

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: song.chen.cloakware.com

Thank you guys for sharing your experience.

My platform is win2000 and Eclipse 2.1, 512M RAM, 1.7M CPU. My comparison is
based on Jbuilder 8 enterprise trial version(JDK 1.4.1 which is plugin in
JBuilder). Both works, but eclipse is slower when start IDE, compiler,
refresh, search etc.

CS
"song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote in message
news:bc2v84$40d$1@rogue.oti.com...
> I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
> slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
> Appreciate any comments.
> CS
>
>

Re: IDE is slower? [message #71610 is a reply to message #70720]

Wed, 11 June 2003 21:28

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: substring0NOSPAM.hotmail.com

Both of my computers at work are running W2K, with P4 chips at 1.5 GHz and
1G memory. I was using both Eclipse 2.1 and JBuilder 8 Enterprise (licensed
version). I found there was no significant difference in performance.
However, I prefer Eclipse over JBuilder because of the ease-of-use, the
availability of all the plug-ins, and less overheads on projects.

Since you are only using the trial version, I strongly suggest NOT to dish
out the thousands of bucks for the licensed copy. It will be wiser to stay
with Eclipse.

Just my $0.02.

simon.

Re: IDE is slower? [message #71666 is a reply to message #70720]

Wed, 11 June 2003 23:57

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ed.burnette.REMOVE.THIS.sas.com

I've found Eclipse performance to be sensitive to disk fragmentation, and
also network performance if your workspace is on a network drive. Also as a
rule of thumb newer JDKs are faster than older ones so it pays to keep that
updated with the latest available. Finally you could try giving the Eclipse
jvm a bit extra memory to play with so it doesn't garbage collect so much -
add these options to the eclipse.exe shortcut: -vmargs -Xmx256m

--
Ed Burnette, co-author Eclipse in Action (www.manning.com/gallardo)

"song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote in message
news:bc79pb$mfs$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Thank you guys for sharing your experience.
>
> My platform is win2000 and Eclipse 2.1, 512M RAM, 1.7M CPU. My comparison
is
> based on Jbuilder 8 enterprise trial version(JDK 1.4.1 which is plugin in
> JBuilder). Both works, but eclipse is slower when start IDE, compiler,
> refresh, search etc.
>
> CS

Re: IDE is slower? [message #72293 is a reply to message #68419]

Thu, 12 June 2003 12:51

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: song.chen.cloakware.com

Thanks Ed, I use local driver, JDK1.4 and have added the options such
that -vmargs -Xmx256m. Simon, could you tell me how many files roughly there
are in your typical project. In my case, I have around 5000 java
files(almost automatically generated). So it take so long time to load and
compiler. Appreciate any more comment about performance.

Thanks,

CS

"song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote in message
news:bc2v84$40d$1@rogue.oti.com...
> I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
> slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
> Appreciate any comments.
> CS
>
>

Re: IDE is slower? [message #72813 is a reply to message #72293]

Thu, 12 June 2003 17:12

Eclipse User

Maybe you should turn off automatic compilation ...

song wrote:

> Thanks Ed, I use local driver, JDK1.4 and have added the options such
> that -vmargs -Xmx256m. Simon, could you tell me how many files roughly there
> are in your typical project. In my case, I have around 5000 java
> files(almost automatically generated). So it take so long time to load and
> compiler. Appreciate any more comment about performance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> CS
>
>
>
>
> "song" <song.chen@cloakware.com> wrote in message
> news:bc2v84$40d$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>I am a beginner for eclipse. Does anyone have a idea why eclipse is so
>>slower than other IDE, for example, Jbuilder?
>>Appreciate any comments.
>> CS
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: IDE is slower? [message #72986 is a reply to message #72293]

Thu, 12 June 2003 21:43

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: substring0NOSPAM.hotmail.com

5000 Java files are too much. You should break them down into packages or
projects with smaller numbers of files. Do not load them if you are not
using them. Quite frankly, I can't see how you can use 5000 files all at
one time.

You see, I never turn off my computers and I rarely close the Eclipse IDE.
Meanwhile, I have JBoss, Tomcat, Oracle9i, SQL Server, Outlook, and several
other applications running concurrently at all time. And I never have any
problem with performance. Maybe the 1G memory helps. Nevertheless, try
reorganize your files, load only those you need, and it should resolve your
problem.

Hope this helps.

simon.

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