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Main page of WTP site updated [message #67229] Mon, 24 January 2005 19:13 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.

Updates include:
1. A link to the current WTP download and the milestone plan.
2. A What's New section.
3. A Help? section.
4. Simpler layout.

The menu has also been updated and should help with quick browsing. Thanks
go out to Ella Belisario for the updated menu.

Please post comments/suggestions/critiques to the newsgroup and enjoy!


Lawrence
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67251 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Lawrence Mandel wrote:

> I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.

Looks great! Much easier to find things now. Thanks Lawrence and Ella.
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67261 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: will70.gmail.com

> Please post comments/suggestions/critiques to the newsgroup and enjoy!

The page is broken when viewed with FireFox 1.0

Will
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67268 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi, the new web site is not viewable in the Opera web browser. I had this
problem with bits of the old site, but the new site is impossable. It
seesm to work with IE though. I have tested with Opera 7 in Windows and
linux.
Keep up the good work
Ian
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67278 is a reply to message #67268] Tue, 25 January 2005 04:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

yes keep up the good work...

BUT: The new page is totally broken with Konqueror/Linux and readable
but not viewable with Firefox1.0/Linux and thats strange... Firefox had
not problems at all even with the most strange layer and css configs for
IE until now (First broken page ever since Firefox 0.8 !!!!)...

Bye...
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67287 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 03:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: nothingman.none.it

Lawrence Mandel wrote:

Don't work even with konqueror (linux kde browser)...

--
Fabio
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #67357 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 04:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: jmordax.terra.es

It is also broken with Mozilla 1.7.5

Lawrence Mandel wrote:

>I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.
>
>Updates include:
>1. A link to the current WTP download and the milestone plan.
>2. A What's New section.
>3. A Help? section.
>4. Simpler layout.
>
>The menu has also been updated and should help with quick browsing. Thanks
>go out to Ella Belisario for the updated menu.
>
>Please post comments/suggestions/critiques to the newsgroup and enjoy!
>
>
>Lawrence
>
>
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #67416 is a reply to message #67229] Tue, 25 January 2005 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: me.work.de

Lawrence Mandel wrote:

> I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.

The site is now viewable only with IE 6.0...

Opera 6.* - brocken
Opera 7.* - brocken
Opera 8 beta - brocken
Mozilla *.* - brocken
Firefox 1.0 - broken
KDE - brocken.
Netscape 3.* - brocken.
Lynx - broken.

Is the main site now friendlier as before? May be, but I can't see the
main frame.
The problem is to use <xml> with xsl stylesheet instead of <html> with css
stylesheet...
Don't forhet that this site is not dedicated to Microsoft's best browser.
Kind Regards,
Andrei
OC4J 10.1.3 - JBOSS 3.2.5 working configs [message #67435 is a reply to message #67357] Tue, 25 January 2005 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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For those interested attached are OC4J 10.1.3 and JBOSS 3.2.5
server-configuration files both work (only tested with Linux, Eclipse
3.1M4, WTP 1.0M2 + requirements) for starting, stopping and debugging
(OC4J has some optional features like threads and verbosity etc...)

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xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://eclipse.org/jst/server/generic/ServerTypeDefinition ServerTypeDefinitionSchema.xsd "
name="JBOSS 3.2.5" version="v3.2.5">
<property id="serverRootDirectory"
label="Application Server Directory:"
type="directory"
context="runtime"
default="/usr/share/jboss" />
<property id="jDomDirectory"
label="JDom Directory:"
type="directory"
context="runtime"
default="/usr/share/jdom/lib" />
<property id="serverConfigRoot"
label="Server Config Directory:"
type="directory"
context="runtime"
default="/var/lib/jboss/default" />
<property id="serverAddress"
label="Address:"
type="string"
context="server"
default="127.0.0.1" />
<property id="port"
label="Port:"
type="string"
context="server"
default="8080" />
<property id="serverConfig"
label="Server Configuration (minimal/default/all):"
type="string"
context="server"
default="default" />
<property id="classPath"
label="Classpath Variable:"
type="directory"
context="runtime"
default="/usr/share/jboss" />

<port>
<no>${port}</no>
<name>Http</name>
<protocol>http</protocol>
</port>

<module>
<type>j2ee.web</type>
<publishDir>${serverRootDirectory}/server/${serverConfig}/deploy </publishDir>
<publisherReference>jboss.web</publisherReference>
</module>


<project>
<classpathReference>jboss.project</classpathReference>
</project>

<start>
<class>org.jboss.Main</class>
<workingDirectory>${serverRootDirectory}/bin</workingDirectory >
<programArguments>-c ${serverConfig}</programArguments>
<vmParameters></vmParameters>
<classpathReference>jboss</classpathReference>
</start>

<stop>
<class>org.jboss.Shutdown</class>
<workingDirectory>${serverRootDirectory}/bin</workingDirectory >
<programArguments>-S</programArguments>
<vmParameters></vmParameters>
<classpathReference>jboss</classpathReference>
</stop>
<publisher id="jboss.web">
<publish>
<task>
<![CDATA[

<project name="deployextension" default="deploy" basedir=".">
<target name="deploy">
<jar destfile="${module.name}.war">
<zipfileset dir="${module.dir}">
<include name="**/*.*"/>
<exclude name="**/*.war"/>
</zipfileset>
</jar>
<move file="${module.name}.war" todir="${server.publish.dir}"/>
</target>
</project>

]]>
</task>
<classpathReference>jboss</classpathReference>
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<![CDATA[<project name="deployextension" default="deploy" basedir=".">
<target name="deploy">
<delete file="${server.publish.dir}/${module.name}.war"/>
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</project>]]>
</task>
<classpathReference>jboss</classpathReference>
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<classpath id="jboss" isLibrary="true">
<archive path="${classPath}/bin/run.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/bin/shutdown.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/client/jboss-j2ee.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/concurrent.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/jboss-system.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/dom4j.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/xercesImpl.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/xml-apis.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/gnu-regexp.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/lib/getopt.jar" />
<archive path=" ${serverConfigRoot}/deploy/jbossweb-tomcat50.sar/servlet-api .jar " />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/bcel.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jboss.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jboss-transaction.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jnpserver.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jpl-pattern.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jpl-util.jar" />
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<classpath id="jboss.project" isLibrary="false">
<archive path="${classPath}/bin/run.jar" />
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<archive path="${classPath}/lib/jboss-system.jar" />
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<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jboss.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jboss-transaction.jar" />
<archive path="${serverConfigRoot}/lib/jnpserver.jar" />
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<archive path="${classPath}/client/jbosssx-client.jar" />
<archive path="${classPath}/client/jnet.jar" />
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<jar type="variable">JDK_TOOLS" />
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<start>
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<vmParameters></vmParameters>
<classpathReference>oc4j.start</classpathReference>
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<![CDATA[<project name="deployextension" default="deploy" basedir=".">
<target name="deploy">
<jar destfile="${module.name}.war">
<zipfileset dir="${module.dir}">
<include name="**/*.*"/>
<exclude name="**/*.war"/>
</zipfileset>
</jar>
<move file="${module.name}.war" todir="${server.publish.dir}"/>
</target>
</project>]]>
</task>
<classpathReference>oc4j</classpathReference>
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<![CDATA[<project name="deployextension" default="deploy" basedir=".">
<target name="deploy">
<delete file="${server.publish.dir}/${module.name}.war"/>
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<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/jazn.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/oc4jclient.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/adminclient.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/oc4j-internal.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/ejb.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/servlet.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jdbc.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/connector.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/activation.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jta.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/mail.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jaxp.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jaas.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/http_client.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jem.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/javavm/lib/jasper.zip" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/javacache/lib/cache.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jdbc/lib/ojdbc14dms.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jdbc/lib/orai18n.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jlib/jssl-1_1.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/lib/dms.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/lib/xmlparserv2.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/rdbms/jlib/aqapi.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/webservices/lib/soap.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/webservices/lib/wsdl.jar" />
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<classpath id="oc4j.start" isLibrary="true">
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar" />
</classpath>

<classpath id="oc4j.stop" isLibrary="true">
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/admin.jar" />
</classpath>

<classpath id="oc4j.project" isLibrary="false">
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/jazn.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/oc4j.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/oc4jclient.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/adminclient.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/oc4j-internal.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/ejb.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/servlet.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jdbc.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/connector.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/activation.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jta.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/mail.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jaxp.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jaas.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/http_client.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/j2ee/home/lib/jem.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/javavm/lib/jasper.zip" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/javacache/lib/cache.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jdbc/lib/ojdbc14dms.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jdbc/lib/orai18n.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/jlib/jssl-1_1.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/lib/dms.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/lib/xmlparserv2.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/rdbms/jlib/aqapi.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/webservices/lib/soap.jar" />
<archive path="/home/opt/oc4j/webservices/lib/wsdl.jar" />
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Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #67547 is a reply to message #67416] Tue, 25 January 2005 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I've opened bug 83622 for the problems with the website.

Andrei Loskutov wrote:
> Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
>> I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.
>
>
> The site is now viewable only with IE 6.0...
>
> Opera 6.* - brocken
> Opera 7.* - brocken
> Opera 8 beta - brocken
> Mozilla *.* - brocken
> Firefox 1.0 - broken
> KDE - brocken.
> Netscape 3.* - brocken.
> Lynx - broken.
>
> Is the main site now friendlier as before? May be, but I can't see the
> main frame.
> The problem is to use <xml> with xsl stylesheet instead of <html> with
> css stylesheet...
> Don't forhet that this site is not dedicated to Microsoft's best browser.
> Kind Regards,
> Andrei
>
>
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #67568 is a reply to message #67416] Tue, 25 January 2005 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Ack! Thanks for all the reports. The main page has been converted back to
HTML from XML and XSL. I've tested with IE6, Opera 7 and Firefox 1.0.
Please continue to report any problems.

The WTP tutorials also work with XML and XSL. Is anyone having problems
with any of the tutorials?

Thanks,


Lawrence


>Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
>> I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.
>
>The site is now viewable only with IE 6.0...
>
>Opera 6.* - brocken
>Opera 7.* - brocken
>Opera 8 beta - brocken
>Mozilla *.* - brocken
>Firefox 1.0 - broken
>KDE - brocken.
>Netscape 3.* - brocken.
>Lynx - broken.
>
>Is the main site now friendlier as before? May be, but I can't see the
>main frame.
>The problem is to use <xml> with xsl stylesheet instead of <html> with
css
>stylesheet...
>Don't forhet that this site is not dedicated to Microsoft's best browser.
>Kind Regards,
>Andrei
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #67605 is a reply to message #67568] Tue, 25 January 2005 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> Ack! Thanks for all the reports. The main page has been converted back to
> HTML from XML and XSL. I've tested with IE6, Opera 7 and Firefox 1.0.
> Please continue to report any problems.
>
> The WTP tutorials also work with XML and XSL. Is anyone having problems
> with any of the tutorials?
Using Opera 7.6 on Linux everything works now fine again - Tutorials too..
thanks,
ra
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #67827 is a reply to message #67605] Wed, 26 January 2005 01:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Things don't look quite 100% with Opera 7.54 in Windows.
The main page is ok, however when clicking on "Web Standard Tools (WST)"
(http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/wst/main.xml) this page does not display
correctly. The same thing happens for several other links on the main page.
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #68800 is a reply to message #67229] Wed, 26 January 2005 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
The new site looks good, and now works in firefox. Thanks.

I was wondering, is there an RSS feed available for the what's new section?

Dan.

Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> I've updated the main page of WTP site to be a little friendlier.
>
> Updates include:
> 1. A link to the current WTP download and the milestone plan.
> 2. A What's New section.
> 3. A Help? section.
> 4. Simpler layout.
>
> The menu has also been updated and should help with quick browsing. Thanks
> go out to Ella Belisario for the updated menu.
>
> Please post comments/suggestions/critiques to the newsgroup and enjoy!
>
>
> Lawrence
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #68875 is a reply to message #67827] Wed, 26 January 2005 22:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 06:51:58 +0000 (UTC), Ian <ian@ontopia.net> wrote:

> Things don't look quite 100% with Opera 7.54 in Windows.
> The main page is ok, however when clicking on "Web Standard Tools (WST)"
> (http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/wst/main.xml) this page does not display
> correctly. The same thing happens for several other links on the main page.
>
>

Yes, sorry, I like Opera too, but we may not support it well for a little while.
We're (trying) to move website to be XML/XSL structured (for better long term flexibility
and style), but short term we need to rely
on client side transformation. We verified Firefox supports this and are aware
Opera doesn't (and may never). *Eventually* we want to beef up the server to do the
transforms server-side, but may be a while to get that working well.
(Of course, as usual, the more Opera fans we have opening/voting on a defect, the higher the
priority will be :)
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #69064 is a reply to message #68875] Thu, 27 January 2005 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
> Yes, sorry, I like Opera too, but we may not support it well for a little
while.

I'm not an Opera user, but that's completely absurd. Most of your users
will be web application developers, and most likely will have Opera
installed on their computers, even if they don't use it as their default
browser.

And what's worse, you're taking out a browser out of the playing field and
adds *nothing* valuable to the end user: everything is still as ugly as
ever -- you're taking out a potential user for silly, internal technical
reasons. Please, don't do this. Keep your pages as well-formed XHTML 1.0 +
CSS without fancy client side transformations, and they will be viewable
from every browser on earth (even IE, for god sake).

-- Marcus Brito
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #69171 is a reply to message #69064] Thu, 27 January 2005 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Marcus,

>And what's worse, you're taking out a browser out of the playing field
and
>adds *nothing* valuable to the end user: everything is still as ugly as
>ever -- you're taking out a potential user for silly, internal technical
>reasons. Please, don't do this. Keep your pages as well-formed XHTML 1.0
+
>CSS without fancy client side transformations, and they will be viewable
>from every browser on earth (even IE, for god sake).

I agree 100%. No browser should be left out in the cold. I am working on
transforming the entire site into HTML + CSS so all browsers will be able
to display the content. If all goes as planned, this will be complete some
time next week.

Lawrence
Re: Main page of WTP site updated [message #69192 is a reply to message #68800] Thu, 27 January 2005 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Dan,

> I was wondering, is there an RSS feed available for the what's new
section?

Great idea! Please open a defect/feature request against the site.

Lawrence
Re: Main page of WTP site updated - and brocken [message #70798 is a reply to message #69171] Mon, 31 January 2005 23:59 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
As a follow-up, Arthur Ryman posted an update to the WTP site today. The
entire site is now available as HTML with CSS.


Lawrence
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