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VE crashing my system... [message #66997] Thu, 14 October 2004 00:15 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: spam.scientifik.com

On Windows XP, using Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK 5.0, and using VE to build Swing
apps, my system crashes quite often (Blue Screen of Death) which is pretty
hard to do (but certainly not impossible) on Windows XP.

The only other time I've crashed WinXP is with bad drivers, which I
certainly do not have now.

This happens while making any changes to a visual class (Swing, didn't
have this problem w/ SWT, though SWT editing was so insanely slow I had to
quit using it). This has never happened using eclipse w/o VE.

There is absolutely no indication as to what happened in the system logs,
it all looks clean there.

Of course this never happens when I boot over to the Gentoo partition on
the same machine, however, this particular project is targeted toward
windows users and the client could care less about portability to other
platforms.

Any ideas what could be causing this? Anyone else experience blue-screen
crashes like this?
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #67043 is a reply to message #66997] Thu, 14 October 2004 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

We haven't done any testing on JDK5.0 with 3.1M2, so we don't know if
there are any problems. Let's try narrowing it down.

1) Switch to JDK1.4.2 instead and see if you have the problems. If you
have no problems, then the problem is JDK5.0. If you do have a problem then:
a) Try bring JDK5.0 back, but use Eclipse 3.0.1 instead. If you have
no problems, then the problem is Eclipse 3.1M2. If you have a problem then:
(i) Try going down to Eclipse 3.0.1 with JDK1.4.2 (which is the
current supported combination) and see if it still happens. If it still
happens, then the problem is your system configuration.

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #67081 is a reply to message #66997] Thu, 14 October 2004 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: cdouglas.nospam.oz.net

spam@scientifik.com (V. Jenks) wrote in news:ckkug4$ue4$1@eclipse.org:

> On Windows XP, using Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK 5.0, and using VE to build
> Swing apps, my system crashes quite often (Blue Screen of Death) which
> is pretty hard to do (but certainly not impossible) on Windows XP.
>
> The only other time I've crashed WinXP is with bad drivers, which I
> certainly do not have now.
>
> This happens while making any changes to a visual class (Swing, didn't
> have this problem w/ SWT, though SWT editing was so insanely slow I
> had to quit using it). This has never happened using eclipse w/o VE.
>
> There is absolutely no indication as to what happened in the system
> logs, it all looks clean there.
>
> Of course this never happens when I boot over to the Gentoo partition
> on the same machine, however, this particular project is targeted
> toward windows users and the client could care less about portability
> to other platforms.
>
> Any ideas what could be causing this? Anyone else experience
> blue-screen crashes like this?
>

I have a similar environment (XP, Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK1.5, building Swing
apps) and I am not having this problem.

What kind of video card do you have? I had problems if I tried to use
the new OpenGL support with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

Chas Douglass
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #67111 is a reply to message #67081] Fri, 15 October 2004 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: spam.scientifik.com

It's a laptop with an Nvidia GEForce card, using the default drivers XP
assigns upon installation, which are the correct drivers, no further
modification was needed for the card.

I installed SP2 and have had a slower system since, but no stability
issues.

Another quirk is; renaming widgets. If I change the name of a widget in
the properties menu (or by right-clicking) eclipse will completely freeze
up and have to be manually terminated so I can bring it back up.

Everything else is great, I love it other than the one or two system
bomb-outs per day!

I don't have time right now to diddle around and attempt to try variations
like eclipse 3.0.1 w/ jdk 1.4, etc.

I absolutely must have the jdk 5.0 and I would also really prefer M2 as it
has the most java 5.0 support so far (though it's lacking a lot more than
it supports).

Thanks!

Chas Douglass wrote:

> spam@scientifik.com (V. Jenks) wrote in news:ckkug4$ue4$1@eclipse.org:

> > On Windows XP, using Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK 5.0, and using VE to build
> > Swing apps, my system crashes quite often (Blue Screen of Death) which
> > is pretty hard to do (but certainly not impossible) on Windows XP.
> >
> > The only other time I've crashed WinXP is with bad drivers, which I
> > certainly do not have now.
> >
> > This happens while making any changes to a visual class (Swing, didn't
> > have this problem w/ SWT, though SWT editing was so insanely slow I
> > had to quit using it). This has never happened using eclipse w/o VE.
> >
> > There is absolutely no indication as to what happened in the system
> > logs, it all looks clean there.
> >
> > Of course this never happens when I boot over to the Gentoo partition
> > on the same machine, however, this particular project is targeted
> > toward windows users and the client could care less about portability
> > to other platforms.
> >
> > Any ideas what could be causing this? Anyone else experience
> > blue-screen crashes like this?
> >

> I have a similar environment (XP, Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK1.5, building Swing
> apps) and I am not having this problem.

> What kind of video card do you have? I had problems if I tried to use
> the new OpenGL support with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

> Chas Douglass
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #67131 is a reply to message #67111] Fri, 15 October 2004 10:49 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

The lock up on the rename is known bug. We have a patch in the
maintenance build out on the update site. It's not the official release
of the 1.0.1.1 but it's darn close if not it. and it fixes the lockup.


--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #601567 is a reply to message #66997] Thu, 14 October 2004 11:15 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

We haven't done any testing on JDK5.0 with 3.1M2, so we don't know if
there are any problems. Let's try narrowing it down.

1) Switch to JDK1.4.2 instead and see if you have the problems. If you
have no problems, then the problem is JDK5.0. If you do have a problem then:
a) Try bring JDK5.0 back, but use Eclipse 3.0.1 instead. If you have
no problems, then the problem is Eclipse 3.1M2. If you have a problem then:
(i) Try going down to Eclipse 3.0.1 with JDK1.4.2 (which is the
current supported combination) and see if it still happens. If it still
happens, then the problem is your system configuration.

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #601600 is a reply to message #66997] Thu, 14 October 2004 13:18 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
spam@scientifik.com (V. Jenks) wrote in news:ckkug4$ue4$1@eclipse.org:

> On Windows XP, using Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK 5.0, and using VE to build
> Swing apps, my system crashes quite often (Blue Screen of Death) which
> is pretty hard to do (but certainly not impossible) on Windows XP.
>
> The only other time I've crashed WinXP is with bad drivers, which I
> certainly do not have now.
>
> This happens while making any changes to a visual class (Swing, didn't
> have this problem w/ SWT, though SWT editing was so insanely slow I
> had to quit using it). This has never happened using eclipse w/o VE.
>
> There is absolutely no indication as to what happened in the system
> logs, it all looks clean there.
>
> Of course this never happens when I boot over to the Gentoo partition
> on the same machine, however, this particular project is targeted
> toward windows users and the client could care less about portability
> to other platforms.
>
> Any ideas what could be causing this? Anyone else experience
> blue-screen crashes like this?
>

I have a similar environment (XP, Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK1.5, building Swing
apps) and I am not having this problem.

What kind of video card do you have? I had problems if I tried to use
the new OpenGL support with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

Chas Douglass
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #601630 is a reply to message #67081] Fri, 15 October 2004 01:08 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
It's a laptop with an Nvidia GEForce card, using the default drivers XP
assigns upon installation, which are the correct drivers, no further
modification was needed for the card.

I installed SP2 and have had a slower system since, but no stability
issues.

Another quirk is; renaming widgets. If I change the name of a widget in
the properties menu (or by right-clicking) eclipse will completely freeze
up and have to be manually terminated so I can bring it back up.

Everything else is great, I love it other than the one or two system
bomb-outs per day!

I don't have time right now to diddle around and attempt to try variations
like eclipse 3.0.1 w/ jdk 1.4, etc.

I absolutely must have the jdk 5.0 and I would also really prefer M2 as it
has the most java 5.0 support so far (though it's lacking a lot more than
it supports).

Thanks!

Chas Douglass wrote:

> spam@scientifik.com (V. Jenks) wrote in news:ckkug4$ue4$1@eclipse.org:

> > On Windows XP, using Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK 5.0, and using VE to build
> > Swing apps, my system crashes quite often (Blue Screen of Death) which
> > is pretty hard to do (but certainly not impossible) on Windows XP.
> >
> > The only other time I've crashed WinXP is with bad drivers, which I
> > certainly do not have now.
> >
> > This happens while making any changes to a visual class (Swing, didn't
> > have this problem w/ SWT, though SWT editing was so insanely slow I
> > had to quit using it). This has never happened using eclipse w/o VE.
> >
> > There is absolutely no indication as to what happened in the system
> > logs, it all looks clean there.
> >
> > Of course this never happens when I boot over to the Gentoo partition
> > on the same machine, however, this particular project is targeted
> > toward windows users and the client could care less about portability
> > to other platforms.
> >
> > Any ideas what could be causing this? Anyone else experience
> > blue-screen crashes like this?
> >

> I have a similar environment (XP, Eclipse 3.1M2, JDK1.5, building Swing
> apps) and I am not having this problem.

> What kind of video card do you have? I had problems if I tried to use
> the new OpenGL support with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.

> Chas Douglass
Re: VE crashing my system... [message #601648 is a reply to message #67111] Fri, 15 October 2004 10:49 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

The lock up on the rename is known bug. We have a patch in the
maintenance build out on the update site. It's not the official release
of the 1.0.1.1 but it's darn close if not it. and it fixes the lockup.


--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp
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