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eclipse gets progressively slower on macosx10.4 [message #60816] Thu, 05 May 2005 13:10 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eitan-keyword-tech.cede1b.u2d.com

hello,
i'm running eclipse v3.02 (have been for a while). i upgraded my mac os
to v10.4. eclipse becomes progressively slower/unresponsive fairly
quickly (within 10-30 minutes after launch). opening a file, closing a
file, even alt-tabbing into eclipse goes from being fairly immediate (~ 1
second) to taking 5-6 seconds each. eclipse basically becomes completely
unusable. the process monitor doesn't show anything unusual. only
eclipse is affected (no other processes).

is anyone else experiencing this??
thanks, eitan
Re: eclipse gets progressively slower on macosx10.4 [message #62795 is a reply to message #60816] Wed, 11 May 2005 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: darld.domain.dom

Yes, I'm seeing this also. While eclipse wasn't "snappy" under 10.3.9
its becoming almost unusable under 10.4. I've got 1.5 GB of mem in my
powerbook and within a couple minutes use, eclipse starts to get really
slow. It takes so long to open some windows or file edits to take effect
that I think its hung. I'm used to quitting eclipse only when I reboot
(every 2 weeks or so), now, I'm rebooting every other day.

I was using 3.0.2 under 10.3.9 and did not have this problem. I have
java-1.5 installed but am not using it.

I'd really like to know what the problem is. My suspicion is that 10.4
handles memory in a different way and "something" quickly discards free
memory leaving swapping as the only way to run a large app.


eitan suez wrote:
> hello,
> i'm running eclipse v3.02 (have been for a while). i upgraded my mac
> os to v10.4. eclipse becomes progressively slower/unresponsive fairly
> quickly (within 10-30 minutes after launch). opening a file, closing a
> file, even alt-tabbing into eclipse goes from being fairly immediate (~
> 1 second) to taking 5-6 seconds each. eclipse basically becomes
> completely unusable. the process monitor doesn't show anything
> unusual. only eclipse is affected (no other processes).
>
> is anyone else experiencing this??
> thanks, eitan
>
>
Re: bingo! [message #63062 is a reply to message #62795] Wed, 11 May 2005 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eitan-keyword-tech.cede1b.u2d.com

thank you! you're the first person i've come across to confirm this
issue. i've had no choice but to stop using eclipse altogether. my
productivity has suffered greatly as a consequence.
followup question.. [message #63077 is a reply to message #62795] Wed, 11 May 2005 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eitan-keyword-tech.cede1b.u2d.com

> and within a couple minutes use, eclipse starts to get really slow.
> It takes so long to open some windows or file edits to take effect
> that I think its hung. I'm used to quitting eclipse only when I
> reboot (every 2 weeks or so), now, I'm rebooting every other day.

i'm not sure i understand. you're rebooting every other day. how
often do you quit and restart eclipse? i would guess every 10-15
minutes (which was my situation) which pretty much means you
can't get anything done, which also means that you're going to stop
using eclipse altogether (or downgrade to 10.3.9).

thanks, eitan
Re: followup question.. [message #63533 is a reply to message #63077] Thu, 12 May 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: darld.domain.dom

eitan suez wrote:
>> and within a couple minutes use, eclipse starts to get really slow. It
>> takes so long to open some windows or file edits to take effect that I
>> think its hung. I'm used to quitting eclipse only when I reboot (every
>> 2 weeks or so), now, I'm rebooting every other day.
>
>
> i'm not sure i understand. you're rebooting every other day. how
> often do you quit and restart eclipse? i would guess every 10-15
> minutes (which was my situation) which pretty much means you
> can't get anything done, which also means that you're going to stop
> using eclipse altogether (or downgrade to 10.3.9).
>
> thanks, eitan
>
>
I don't ever quit eclipse - except before I reboot.
I think it must depend on how much memory you have, I've got 1.5GB of
ram and I can watch it get consumed as I use eclipse. Using Activity
Monitor, its clear that things are different in 10.4 - maybe Activity
Monitor is broken but my "free memory" gets used up really quickly and
the numbers don't seem to add up, its like some process is slowly
staking out memory and not returning it. (maybe its eclispe!)

I rebooted yesterday, fired up all my usual apps, including eclipse and
while I'm down to the minimal 16 - 20 MB free memory now, eclipse is
still usable.
I believe that's because the OS doesn't need to swap much at the moment.
Continued usage, DVDPlayer, iTunes, iPhoto may contribute to the
swapping problem and lead to the issues with eclipse that you and I (and
a guy over in e.t.jdt) experience, but I'm just starting day 2 and
haven't had the problem yet... I'm sure we're not alone but I can't seem
to find other reports of this. Some folks are reporting poor performance
in PhotoShop and other large content apps - maybe its the same thing...

So, I can go a day or 2 before I need to reboot depending on how much
other stuff I use the powerbook for. I'll keep using eclipse under 10.4
- maybe I'll switch to java1.5 and v3.1.m6 to see if that helps and wait
for apple to fix this.
There is no going back to 10.3.9 as I need to use java1.5 in the near
future.
Re: followup question.. [message #63646 is a reply to message #63533] Thu, 12 May 2005 15:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eitan-keyword-tech.cede1b.u2d.com

thanks for the information. this really helps.

i'm likewise a little surprised that i haven't heard very many reports of
this issue among the community. i tried 3.1M6 and in my case it did not
help. i gave myself a crash course in IDEA. that's what i'll be using
for now.
Re: followup question.. [message #64034 is a reply to message #63533] Fri, 13 May 2005 15:25 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: darld.domain.dom

OSX 10.4, eclipse 3.0.2, 3rd day of moderate computer use.

Ok, its the middle of day three - eclipse has started to act weird -
scrolling a java source is really slow. It took 6 seconds of rolling the
click wheel on my mouse to move entirely through a 236 line source file.
If I grab the slider on the side and try to use that it hardly moves at all.

It took 9+ seconds to bring up the ant build panel. (right click on
build.xml, select Run, select Ant Build... and then wait 9 seconds.)

Selecting a line and hitting delete in a source file, takes a second or
2 to "settle".

Guess its time to reboot again.
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