| Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #58546] |
Thu, 02 October 2003 20:25  |
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Originally posted by: derisor.arcor.de
Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the following.
1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE so I
don't need developer tools.
3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the core of
eclipse.
So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything non-essential and
an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip those out
and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
a) Is this possible?
b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a trick.
TIA
-- Kraythe
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| Re: Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #59624 is a reply to message #58546] |
Wed, 29 October 2003 15:55  |
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Originally posted by: scott.anderson.genuitec.com
Kraythe,
It's very possible, even with Eclipse 2.1. Genuitec has a very active
consulting practice that has been assisting companies in doing exactly what
you're interested in for quite some time. I believe the first paper to
propose this idea was written by one of our VP's over a hear ago and is
available here:
http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
--Scott
Genuitec, LLC
"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:blifgp$2s8$1@eclipse.org...
> Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the
following.
>
> 1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
>
> 2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE
so I
> don't need developer tools.
>
> 3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the
core of
> eclipse.
>
> So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything
non-essential and
> an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
> projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip
those out
> and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
>
> a) Is this possible?
> b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a
trick.
>
> TIA
>
> -- Kraythe
>
>
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| Re: Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #595521 is a reply to message #58546] |
Fri, 03 October 2003 06:09 |
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It would be rather defecult, since eclipse was ment for building IDEs, so
the project notation, CVS support and more. You can however use SWT as your
GUI library instead of Swing.
David
"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:blifgp$2s8$1@eclipse.org...
> Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the
following.
>
> 1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
>
> 2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE
so I
> don't need developer tools.
>
> 3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the
core of
> eclipse.
>
> So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything
non-essential and
> an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
> projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip
those out
> and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
>
> a) Is this possible?
> b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a
trick.
>
> TIA
>
> -- Kraythe
>
>
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| Re: Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #595542 is a reply to message #58546] |
Fri, 03 October 2003 07:17 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: hcs33.egon.gyaloglo.hu
Hi,
In Eclipse 3.0 plan
( http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_p lan_3_0.html)
there is a plan item to split the general ui framework and the ide-specific
parts (look under Rich Client Platform). For Eclipse 2.x you have to remove
the unnecessary plugins.
Another (maybe) interesting links (which can help you with Eclipse 2.x):
- http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/2586
- http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/2587
HTH,
Regards,
Csaba
"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:blifgp$2s8$1@eclipse.org...
> Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the
following.
>
> 1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
>
> 2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE
so I
> don't need developer tools.
>
> 3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the
core of
> eclipse.
>
> So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything
non-essential and
> an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
> projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip
those out
> and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
>
> a) Is this possible?
> b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a
trick.
>
> TIA
>
> -- Kraythe
>
>
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| Re: Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #595554 is a reply to message #58622] |
Fri, 03 October 2003 12:17 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: rselrahc.nospam.hotmail.com
You might also want to look at the work being done on role-based UI:
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/plat form-ui-home/roles/index.html
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:17:32 +0200, "Horváth, Csaba"
<hcs33@egon.gyaloglo.hu> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>In Eclipse 3.0 plan
>( http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_p lan_3_0.html)
>there is a plan item to split the general ui framework and the ide-specific
>parts (look under Rich Client Platform). For Eclipse 2.x you have to remove
>the unnecessary plugins.
>Another (maybe) interesting links (which can help you with Eclipse 2.x):
>- http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/2586
>- http://eclipsewiki.swiki.net/2587
>
>HTH,
>Regards,
>Csaba
>
>"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
>news:blifgp$2s8$1@eclipse.org...
>> Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the
>following.
>>
>> 1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
>>
>> 2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE
>so I
>> don't need developer tools.
>>
>> 3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the
>core of
>> eclipse.
>>
>> So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything
>non-essential and
>> an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
>> projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip
>those out
>> and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
>>
>> a) Is this possible?
>> b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a
>trick.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> -- Kraythe
>>
>>
>
And I was told to add: "The opinions expressed in this message do not reflect the views of my employer."
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| Re: Non IDE application Based on Eclipse. [message #595936 is a reply to message #58546] |
Wed, 29 October 2003 15:55 |
| Eclipse User |
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Kraythe,
It's very possible, even with Eclipse 2.1. Genuitec has a very active
consulting practice that has been assisting companies in doing exactly what
you're interested in for quite some time. I believe the first paper to
propose this idea was written by one of our VP's over a hear ago and is
available here:
http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
--Scott
Genuitec, LLC
"Robert Simmons" <derisor@arcor.de> wrote in message
news:blifgp$2s8$1@eclipse.org...
> Id like to develop a new application. The constraints I have are the
following.
>
> 1) The user shouldn't know they are using eclipse.
>
> 2) The application is a media object management application and not an IDE
so I
> don't need developer tools.
>
> 3) The application should take advantage of the plug in framework at the
core of
> eclipse.
>
> So what I'm shooting for is an eclipse stripped of everything
non-essential and
> an open slate. I downloaded the platform but it still has the concepts of
> projects and other developer components within it. I would like to rip
those out
> and use my own menus and features. My questions are:
>
> a) Is this possible?
> b) Is there any place that has documentation on how to accomplish such a
trick.
>
> TIA
>
> -- Kraythe
>
>
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