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Gemini on Jboss [message #555440] Thu, 26 August 2010 15:23 Go to next message
Srinivas Chamarthi is currently offline Srinivas ChamarthiFriend
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Hi,

we are planning to implement a new spring based web application which basically has to support multi versioning of the services and the modules has to be installed/stopped/started/uninstalled dynamically without any downtime in the application.

we want to use Gemini for this. But our targeted container is Jboss.

so just want to check is there an gemini integration for jboss is provided ? and also when can we expect a GA version or production release available ?

any inputs are greatly appreciated

thx
Srinivas
Re: Gemini on Jboss [message #556776 is a reply to message #555440] Thu, 02 September 2010 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Keith is currently offline Michael KeithFriend
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Hi Srinivas,

If you are using a JBoss app server then you must essentially play by its rules, since the container has all of the control. Gemini is not integrated with any particular server; it is up the server to integrate the Gemini components.

Hope this explains things better.

-Mike
Re: Gemini on Jboss [message #557009 is a reply to message #555440] Fri, 03 September 2010 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glyn Normington is currently offline Glyn NormingtonFriend
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We are aiming to release Gemini Web in 4Q.
Re: Gemini on Jboss [message #557517 is a reply to message #556776] Tue, 07 September 2010 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner KeilFriend
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Doesn't it mainly depend on OSGi?

So any OSGi-compliant App Server, certainly Glassfish seems to be in recent
versions (don't know, if it depends on a release in JBoss, but this blog may
help: http://jbossosgi.blogspot.com/) should do, right?

Werner
Re: Gemini on Jboss [message #557581 is a reply to message #557517] Wed, 08 September 2010 07:27 Go to previous message
Glyn Normington is currently offline Glyn NormingtonFriend
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Your basic assertion is right: Gemini does depend first and foremost on OSGi.

However, that doesn't mean to say that you can successfully use Gemini in any environment that supports OSGi. You might be able to get the bundles installed and perhaps even start them, but that on its own doesn't guarantee successful operation or decent integration with the container.

There are lots of points at which Gemini might conflict with an app server which has an OSGi container. Take a simple example: Gemini Web is going to listen for HTTP requests on a given port. HTTP requests which come in to the app server's configured port will not necessarily be routed through to Gemini Web unless the app server is designed for that to happen.

So if you start with an app server which is not designed to "host" Gemini, it seems to be that the best you'll end up with is "two in a box" - Gemini running inside the app server but essentially independent of it.
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