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Mac user: Which package/version to download please? [message #527050] Tue, 13 April 2010 15:58 Go to next message
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Hello all. I have a Mac, running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on the Intel Core Duo processor. I need an Eclipse package to support a small Java coding project using UML as a design tool. It's for a class that I am enrolled in.

Is THIS what I need? The Eclipse Modeling Tools?

What version do I need? Mac OS X Carbon? Or do I need Cocoa 32? Or is it Cocoa 64?

I have very little experience with software downloads and software installations. Could you step me through it: What will happen when I select "Eclipse Modeling Tools, Mac OS X Carbon" (or whichever)..? Will it download and then automatically unzip itself? Will it ask me to designate a Mac folder, such as "Applications"..? What Mac folder/directory should I designate?

Sorry about double posting--I posted this in the Newcomers section but after more than 100 views and no response, I thought it was fair to post this here.
Re: Mac user: Which package/version to download please? [message #527100 is a reply to message #527050] Wed, 14 April 2010 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ronald Inselberg wrote:
> Hello all. I have a Mac, running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on the Intel Core Duo
> processor. I need an Eclipse package to support a small Java coding
> project using UML as a design tool. It's for a class that I am enrolled in.
>
> Is
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-modeling-t ools-includes-incubating-components/galileosr2
> what I need? The Eclipse Modeling Tools?
>
> What version do I need? Mac OS X Carbon? Or do I need Cocoa 32? Or is it
> Cocoa 64?
>
> I have very little experience with software downloads and software
> installations. Could you step me through it: What will happen when I
> select "Eclipse Modeling Tools, Mac OS X Carbon" (or whichever)..? Will
> it download and then automatically unzip itself? Will it ask me to
> designate a Mac folder, such as "Applications"..? What Mac
> folder/directory should I designate?
>
> Sorry about double posting--I posted this in the Newcomers section but
> after more than 100 views and no response, I thought it was fair to post
> this here.


If you're running on OS X 10.4.x, you don't have a 64-bit Java Runtime
Environment (JRE), so you need the 32 bit version of Eclipse. As for Cocoa
versus Carbon, there is a nice writeup at
http://blog.zvikico.com/2009/06/eclipse-galileo-for-mac-coco a-or-carbon.html,
but the bottom line is, get Cocoa 32 bit.

To support a Java project, all you need is the "Eclipse IDE for Java EE
Developers". If you want to use Eclipse's modeling tools, it would make sense
to download the modeling tools package, but it sounds like you are just trying
to develop your own modeling tools, so you don't need Eclipse's.

After you click the download link, you'll end up with a file that has a .tar.gz
extension. This is a compressed file archive; you'll need to extract its
contents. There are plenty of ways to do that, but one way is to double-click
the file in Finder. When you do that it'll create a subdirectory named
'eclipse' under the directory where the archive file is located. You can then
drag that entire subdirectory into your Applications folder, or wherever else
you'd like. (After you've done that, you can delete the .tar.gz file.) To run
Eclipse, open up that 'eclipse' subdirectory, and within it there'll be an
Eclipse.app file; double-click that to launch. You can also drag the
Eclipse.app file onto your Dock to create a launch icon.

If you do decide you need the Modeling Framework, or any other additional
Eclipse components, you can install them after the fact by clicking on Help ->
Install New Software inside of Eclipse.
Re: Mac user: Which package/version to download please? [message #629122 is a reply to message #527050] Mon, 27 September 2010 05:54 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Although this topic is already rather old, I want to clear things up for anyone who gets here in search for the correct eclipse version for 10.4.11 (as I did).

> As for Cocoa versus Carbon, there is a nice writeup at
> http://blog.zvikico.com/2009/06/eclipse-galileo-for-mac-coco a-or-carbon.html, but the bottom line is, get Cocoa 32 bit.

I don't think this is correct. Although my web research told me that Cocoa is included in Mac OS since 10.4 (at least partly), all the eclipse Cocoa versions (3.5, 3.6) refuse to work under 10.4; they show a message that they require Mac OS 10.5 or higher.

As Carbon versions are only available until eclipse 3.5, the latest version running under 10.4.11 is Eclipse Galileo 3.5 SR2 in the 32bit Carbon version, available for download here:
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/release/galileo/sr 2
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