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please simplify link file creation. [message #49755]

Tue, 27 May 2003 10:28

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: dominic.nospam.com

why is it necessary to make link files point to a directory that contains
another one called eclipse ? does it not make sense to make them directly
pointing to the said directory. Please tell me where i am supposed to look
to remove this starnge behavior.

Re: please simplify link file creation. [message #50173 is a reply to message #49755]

Tue, 27 May 2003 13:30

Eclipse User

dominic wrote:
> why is it necessary to make link files point to a directory that contains
> another one called eclipse ? does it not make sense to make them directly
> pointing to the said directory. Please tell me where i am supposed to look
> to remove this starnge behavior.
>
>

I'd disagree that the behaviour is strange.It is consistent. Eclipse
resides in the eclipse directory. Things that are eclipse sit in the
eclipse directory. Link files are provided to enable extensions to a
single instance of eclipse. The root of installs is 'eclipse'.

An eclipse instance
<productdir>/eclipse/features
<productdir>/eclipse/plugins
<productdir>/eclipse/.eclipseproduct
<productdir>/eclipse/eclipse.exe
....

An Extension to eclipse.
<extensiondir>/eclipse/features
<extensiondir>/eclipse/plugins
<extensiondir>/eclipse/.eclipseextension
....

Simple and consistent.

I am curious as to why this is such a issue however. It obviously isn't
in the link file creation, as the link file contents would be the same.
And creating an extra directory doesn't seem to be too hard?

Peter

Re: please simplify link file creation. [message #50599 is a reply to message #50173]

Tue, 27 May 2003 16:20

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: dominic.nospam.com

As a user i hapen to have multiple eclipse versions and i dislike having to
do eclipse-2.1.1/eclipse. What is so wrong in having
<productdir>/features
<productdir>/plugins
<productdir>.product
<productdir>eclipse.exe

<extensiondir>/features
<extensiondir>/plugins
<extensiondir>/.extension

The other problem is that the application we have has nothing to do with
eclipse :-( So form a platform point of view it sucks that we have to resort
to code changes for something so benin ! It must be hard for you to put
yourself in my choose but avoiding calling everything eclipse might help
greatly in platformizing this beast.
I also understand that we have not paid a cent for this but i hope you
consider making the life of people making vertical market type apps life
easier a worthwhile effort.

my $.02

"Peter Manahan" <manahan@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:bb079o$ba9$1@rogue.oti.com...
> dominic wrote:
> > why is it necessary to make link files point to a directory that
contains
> > another one called eclipse ? does it not make sense to make them
directly
> > pointing to the said directory. Please tell me where i am supposed to
look
> > to remove this starnge behavior.
> >
> >
>
> I'd disagree that the behaviour is strange.It is consistent. Eclipse
> resides in the eclipse directory. Things that are eclipse sit in the
> eclipse directory. Link files are provided to enable extensions to a
> single instance of eclipse. The root of installs is 'eclipse'.
>
> An eclipse instance
> <productdir>/eclipse/features
> <productdir>/eclipse/plugins
> <productdir>/eclipse/.eclipseproduct
> <productdir>/eclipse/eclipse.exe
> ...
>
> An Extension to eclipse.
> <extensiondir>/eclipse/features
> <extensiondir>/eclipse/plugins
> <extensiondir>/eclipse/.eclipseextension
> ...
>
> Simple and consistent.
>
> I am curious as to why this is such a issue however. It obviously isn't
> in the link file creation, as the link file contents would be the same.
> And creating an extra directory doesn't seem to be too hard?
>
> Peter
>

Re: please simplify link file creation. [message #50710 is a reply to message #50599]

Tue, 27 May 2003 17:52

Eclipse User

Relax :-) I wasn't being critical I just wanted to know what use case
you had. I don't mind it the way it is but everyone has different points
of view. You should probably open feature request against the platform
to ask for this change especially since according to the 3.0 plan one of
the goals is to provide more support for client applications based on
eclipse.

When you install features via update manager it doesn't create an
eclipse directory either when you add a new site. So it seems it isn't
consistent like I first thought. :-)

Peter
dominic wrote:
> As a user i hapen to have multiple eclipse versions and i dislike having to
> do eclipse-2.1.1/eclipse. What is so wrong in having
> <productdir>/features
> <productdir>/plugins
> <productdir>.product
> <productdir>eclipse.exe
>
> <extensiondir>/features
> <extensiondir>/plugins
> <extensiondir>/.extension
>
> The other problem is that the application we have has nothing to do with
> eclipse :-( So form a platform point of view it sucks that we have to resort
> to code changes for something so benin ! It must be hard for you to put
> yourself in my choose but avoiding calling everything eclipse might help
> greatly in platformizing this beast.
> I also understand that we have not paid a cent for this but i hope you
> consider making the life of people making vertical market type apps life
> easier a worthwhile effort.
>
> my $.02
>
> "Peter Manahan" <manahan@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:bb079o$ba9$1@rogue.oti.com...
>
>>dominic wrote:
>>
>>>why is it necessary to make link files point to a directory that
>
> contains
>
>>>another one called eclipse ? does it not make sense to make them
>
> directly
>
>>>pointing to the said directory. Please tell me where i am supposed to
>
> look
>
>>>to remove this starnge behavior.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'd disagree that the behaviour is strange.It is consistent. Eclipse
>>resides in the eclipse directory. Things that are eclipse sit in the
>>eclipse directory. Link files are provided to enable extensions to a
>>single instance of eclipse. The root of installs is 'eclipse'.
>>
>>An eclipse instance
>><productdir>/eclipse/features
>><productdir>/eclipse/plugins
>><productdir>/eclipse/.eclipseproduct
>><productdir>/eclipse/eclipse.exe
>>...
>>
>>An Extension to eclipse.
>><extensiondir>/eclipse/features
>><extensiondir>/eclipse/plugins
>><extensiondir>/eclipse/.eclipseextension
>>...
>>
>>Simple and consistent.
>>
>>I am curious as to why this is such a issue however. It obviously isn't
>>in the link file creation, as the link file contents would be the same.
>>And creating an extra directory doesn't seem to be too hard?
>>
>>Peter
>>
>
>
>

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