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unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #488798]

Wed, 30 September 2009 09:33

thomas menzel is currently offline

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hi folks,

i am using the jee package of Galileo.

the omnipresent PlSql Menu drives me nuts b/c it has the same
accelerator P as the Project Menu.

since i use several perspectives and diff. workspaces i have to
deactivate it manually for each, not a task i enjoy.

then i noticed that there is a folder
eclipse\plugins\org.eclipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20 090611-0411
and thought: maybe i can do it for good in capabilities, but i dont find
any entry there...

is this i a bug?

so, what do i do to get rid of the menu?

BTW: if possible, i just would like to remove the plugin that creates
the menu entry but i was unable to find it.

--
Thomas Menzel (aka: tom)

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #488917 is a reply to message #488798]

Wed, 30 September 2009 17:14

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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I'm not sure what the PlSql menu is honestly (not ringing a bell for me
in DTP)... What are you clicking on to see it?
--Fitz

tmenzel wrote:
> hi folks,
>
>
> i am using the jee package of Galileo.
>
> the omnipresent PlSql Menu drives me nuts b/c it has the same
> accelerator P as the Project Menu.
>
> since i use several perspectives and diff. workspaces i have to
> deactivate it manually for each, not a task i enjoy.
>
> then i noticed that there is a folder
> eclipse\plugins\org.eclipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20 090611-0411
> and thought: maybe i can do it for good in capabilities, but i dont find
> any entry there...
>
> is this i a bug?
>
>
> so, what do i do to get rid of the menu?
>
> BTW: if possible, i just would like to remove the plugin that creates
> the menu entry but i was unable to find it.
>

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #490588 is a reply to message #488917]

Fri, 09 October 2009 09:54

thomas menzel is currently offline

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>What are you clicking on to see it?

nothing that is what bothers me.

it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip

maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491499 is a reply to message #490588]

Wed, 14 October 2009 19:37

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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thomas menzel wrote:
>> What are you clicking on to see it?
>
> nothing that is what bothers me.
>
> it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after
> unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip
>
> maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491500 is a reply to message #490588]

Wed, 14 October 2009 19:38

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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I'm still not quite sure what you're seeing... Is it a menu? A toolbar?
What?

thomas menzel wrote:
>> What are you clicking on to see it?
>
> nothing that is what bothers me.
>
> it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after
> unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip
>
> maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491636 is a reply to message #491500]

Thu, 15 October 2009 10:33

thomas menzel is currently offline

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maybe this picture helps.

[hm, cant seem to upload a file here in the forum... ]

the "PL/SQL Action Set" is on by default and hence i have to turn it off in all perspectives. it comes with a menu and toolbar buttons.
the menu i have described already...

using 3-4 diff. workspaces and in each 4-5 perspectives makes 12-20 times setting the same prefs.

thomas menzel aka tom

[Updated on: Thu, 15 October 2009 10:47]

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491673 is a reply to message #491636]

Thu, 15 October 2009 12:57

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thomas menzel wrote:
> maybe this picture helps.
>
> the "PL/SQL Action Set" is on by default and hence i have to turn it off
> in all perspectives.
>
> using 3-4 diff. workspaces and in each 4-5 perspectives makes 12-20
> times setting the same prefs.
The picture didn't come through on the newsgroup for some reason...

But So far as I can tell, that's not DTP. You might put a question in
the main Eclipse newsgroup and see if anybody claims it, but I'm not
familiar with that one - sorry.
--Fitz

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491707 is a reply to message #491673]

Thu, 15 October 2009 14:20

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i found the culprit bundle that makes the menu

plsqleditor_0.4.9

from http://sourceforge.net/projects/plsqleditor/

quite plain and clear if you are not looking for a .datatools.* plugin among those 750+ that come with the JEE package.

i dont how it made it into my installation and am hence sorry to have bothered u with this.

anyhow, thx for the support, but one of my points regarding capabilities hasnt been answered:

in my installation i see the bundle
D:\eclipse\eclipse-jee-galileo-win32\eclipse\plugins\org.ecl ipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20090611-0411

the README states:
Notes:
This is a very high level implementation of capabilities across all
of DTP. It basically turns all menus, views, editors, and perspectives
off (any plug-in with the pattern org.eclipse.datatools.*).

from this i conclude there is/should be a checkbox in prefs/general/capabilities to turn off all DTP stuff as the readme says, but i dont see such a checkbox.

hence the question: is this a bug?
or how shall i interpret the above plugin and readme?

sorry, i guess my posting was not really clear but since i thought the PLSQL menu comes from the DTP turning that off would have saved my problem.

tom

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491762 is a reply to message #491707]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:14

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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Well, I'm glad you tracked it down. Sorry it was such a pain to do so...

I just looked at the SR1 build of the JEE package and found the DTP
capability, but it's buried.

If you go to General->Capabilities and click on "Advanced", it brings up
a dialog "Advanced Capabilities Settings."

Go to Development->Data Tools Platform and you should be able to turn it
off there. I just tested it and it does shut off all datatools
functionality (perspectives, views, etc.).

It's quite buried. IMHO, the Capabilities bits of Eclipse need some
serious work to actually make them useful.

Hope that helps!
--Fitz

thomas menzel wrote:
> i found the culprit bundle that makes the menu
>
> plsqleditor_0.4.9
>
> from http://sourceforge.net/projects/plsqleditor/
>
> quite plain and clear if you are not looking for a .datatools.* plugin
> among those 750+ that come with the JEE package.
>
> i dont how it made it into my installation and am hence sorry to have
> bothered u with this.
>
> anyhow, thx for the support, but one of my points regarding capabilities
> hasnt been answered:
>
> in my installation i see the bundle
> D:\eclipse\eclipse-jee-galileo-win32\eclipse\plugins\org.ecl
> ipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20090611-0411
>
> the README states:
> Notes:
> This is a very high level implementation of capabilities across all
> of DTP. It basically turns all menus, views, editors, and perspectives
> off (any plug-in with the pattern org.eclipse.datatools.*).
>
> from this i conclude there is/should be a checkbox in
> prefs/general/capabilities to turn off all DTP stuff as the readme says,
> but i dont see such a checkbox.
>
> hence the question: is this a bug?
> or how shall i interpret the above plugin and readme?
>
> sorry, i guess my posting was not really clear but since i thought the
> PLSQL menu comes from the DTP turning that off would have saved my problem.
>
> tom
>
>

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #491763 is a reply to message #491762]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:23

thomas menzel is currently offline

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Brian Fitzpatrick wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 13:14

If you go to General->Capabilities and click on "Advanced", it brings up
a dialog "Advanced Capabilities Settings."

ah, yes that does it!

thx

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596442 is a reply to message #488798]

Wed, 30 September 2009 17:14

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

Brian Fitzpatrick

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Messages: 500
Registered: July 2009

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I'm not sure what the PlSql menu is honestly (not ringing a bell for me
in DTP)... What are you clicking on to see it?
--Fitz

tmenzel wrote:
> hi folks,
>
>
> i am using the jee package of Galileo.
>
> the omnipresent PlSql Menu drives me nuts b/c it has the same
> accelerator P as the Project Menu.
>
> since i use several perspectives and diff. workspaces i have to
> deactivate it manually for each, not a task i enjoy.
>
> then i noticed that there is a folder
> eclipse\plugins\org.eclipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20 090611-0411
> and thought: maybe i can do it for good in capabilities, but i dont find
> any entry there...
>
> is this i a bug?
>
>
> so, what do i do to get rid of the menu?
>
> BTW: if possible, i just would like to remove the plugin that creates
> the menu entry but i was unable to find it.
>

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596628 is a reply to message #488917]

Fri, 09 October 2009 09:54

thomas menzel is currently offline

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>What are you clicking on to see it?

nothing that is what bothers me.

it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip

maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596672 is a reply to message #596628]

Wed, 14 October 2009 19:37

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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thomas menzel wrote:
>> What are you clicking on to see it?
>
> nothing that is what bothers me.
>
> it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after
> unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip
>
> maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596681 is a reply to message #596628]

Wed, 14 October 2009 19:38

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

Brian Fitzpatrick

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Messages: 500
Registered: July 2009

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I'm still not quite sure what you're seeing... Is it a menu? A toolbar?
What?

thomas menzel wrote:
>> What are you clicking on to see it?
>
> nothing that is what bothers me.
>
> it is there to the left of the project menu, out of the box after
> unzipping eclipse-jee-galileo-win32.zip
>
> maybe its not part of DTP? but i assumed so.

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596708 is a reply to message #491500]

Thu, 15 October 2009 10:33

thomas menzel is currently offline

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maybe this picture helps.

the "PL/SQL Action Set" is on by default and hence i have to turn it off in all perspectives.

using 3-4 diff. workspaces and in each 4-5 perspectives makes 12-20 times setting the same prefs.

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596713 is a reply to message #596708]

Thu, 15 October 2009 12:57

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

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thomas menzel wrote:
> maybe this picture helps.
>
> the "PL/SQL Action Set" is on by default and hence i have to turn it off
> in all perspectives.
>
> using 3-4 diff. workspaces and in each 4-5 perspectives makes 12-20
> times setting the same prefs.
The picture didn't come through on the newsgroup for some reason...

But So far as I can tell, that's not DTP. You might put a question in
the main Eclipse newsgroup and see if anybody claims it, but I'm not
familiar with that one - sorry.
--Fitz

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596718 is a reply to message #491673]

Thu, 15 October 2009 14:20

thomas menzel is currently offline

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i found the culprit bundle that makes the menu

plsqleditor_0.4.9

from http://sourceforge.net/projects/plsqleditor/

quite plain and clear if you are not looking for a .datatools.* plugin among those 750+ that come with the JEE package.

i dont how it made it into my installation and am hence sorry to have bothered u with this.

anyhow, thx for the support, but one of my points regarding capabilities hasnt been answered:

in my installation i see the bundle
D:\eclipse\eclipse-jee-galileo-win32\eclipse\plugins\org.ecl ipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20090611-0411

the README states:
Notes:
This is a very high level implementation of capabilities across all
of DTP. It basically turns all menus, views, editors, and perspectives
off (any plug-in with the pattern org.eclipse.datatools.*).

from this i conclude there is/should be a checkbox in prefs/general/capabilities to turn off all DTP stuff as the readme says, but i dont see such a checkbox.

hence the question: is this a bug?
or how shall i interpret the above plugin and readme?

sorry, i guess my posting was not really clear but since i thought the PLSQL menu comes from the DTP turning that off would have saved my problem.

tom

thomas menzel aka tom

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596721 is a reply to message #596718]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:14

Brian Fitzpatrick is currently offline

Brian Fitzpatrick

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Messages: 500
Registered: July 2009

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Well, I'm glad you tracked it down. Sorry it was such a pain to do so...

I just looked at the SR1 build of the JEE package and found the DTP
capability, but it's buried.

If you go to General->Capabilities and click on "Advanced", it brings up
a dialog "Advanced Capabilities Settings."

Go to Development->Data Tools Platform and you should be able to turn it
off there. I just tested it and it does shut off all datatools
functionality (perspectives, views, etc.).

It's quite buried. IMHO, the Capabilities bits of Eclipse need some
serious work to actually make them useful.

Hope that helps!
--Fitz

thomas menzel wrote:
> i found the culprit bundle that makes the menu
>
> plsqleditor_0.4.9
>
> from http://sourceforge.net/projects/plsqleditor/
>
> quite plain and clear if you are not looking for a .datatools.* plugin
> among those 750+ that come with the JEE package.
>
> i dont how it made it into my installation and am hence sorry to have
> bothered u with this.
>
> anyhow, thx for the support, but one of my points regarding capabilities
> hasnt been answered:
>
> in my installation i see the bundle
> D:\eclipse\eclipse-jee-galileo-win32\eclipse\plugins\org.ecl
> ipse.datatools.capabilities_1.0.0.v20090611-0411
>
> the README states:
> Notes:
> This is a very high level implementation of capabilities across all
> of DTP. It basically turns all menus, views, editors, and perspectives
> off (any plug-in with the pattern org.eclipse.datatools.*).
>
> from this i conclude there is/should be a checkbox in
> prefs/general/capabilities to turn off all DTP stuff as the readme says,
> but i dont see such a checkbox.
>
> hence the question: is this a bug?
> or how shall i interpret the above plugin and readme?
>
> sorry, i guess my posting was not really clear but since i thought the
> PLSQL menu comes from the DTP turning that off would have saved my problem.
>
> tom
>
>

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Re: unable to deactivate DTP via capabilities in gallileo [message #596729 is a reply to message #491762]

Thu, 15 October 2009 17:23

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Brian Fitzpatrick wrote on Thu, 15 October 2009 13:14
> If you go to General->Capabilities and click on "Advanced", it brings up
> a dialog "Advanced Capabilities Settings."

ah, yes that does it!

thx

thomas menzel aka tom

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