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EclipseUML2 model and iterative agile process is possible [message #478045] Thu, 04 December 2008 10:09 Go to next message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad VarnicaFriend
Messages: 546
Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
Hi Folks,

The current problem we are facing is that less and less companies are
really using advanced UML because waterfall model is to gather input, then
write requirements, then deliver a year later. This is not possible
anymore in our fast changing world. Not being fully satisfied many
projects just used UML for creating few diagrams and small models with no
logic between them and sometimes used reverse engineering only for
documentation purposes.
We can't accept this fate and believe that modeling is and will always be
important. Our current problem is just related to tool flexibility.
I have written a small article on this subject at:
http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/wa terfall_versus_incrementale_modeling_cycle.html


Omondo believes in:
1. a standard model (e.g. EclipseUML2 metamodel) and tool model
interchange :
http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/ec lipseuml2008_dynamic_navigation.html#5._Model_interchange_wi ht_RSA_7

2. a single model approach and not multiple models with no logic between
them :
http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/Mo del_Editor/Multiple_project_model/index.html

3. a full reverse by mapping all java information into the model :
http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/re verse/reverse/index.html#1.1_Create_a_detailled_model_includ ing

UML is better than any other modeling technology (e.g. SysML, BPMN etc..)
because UML is the only to fully cover the entire agile iterative process
while the others are stuck in the waterfall dilemma.


Vlad
Omondo
Re: EclipseUML2 model and iterative agile process is possible [message #478047 is a reply to message #478045] Thu, 04 December 2008 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
Messages: 1620
Registered: July 2009
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Vlad,

Please kindly post future notices like this (i.e. those which could be
percevied as commercial in nature) to the eclipse.commercial newsgroup.
Thanks!

Kenn

"Vlad Varnica" <varnica@omondo.com> wrote in message
news:02627ce07e648c856b4377d64cf26bad$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Folks,
>
> The current problem we are facing is that less and less companies are
> really using advanced UML because waterfall model is to gather input, then
> write requirements, then deliver a year later. This is not possible
> anymore in our fast changing world. Not being fully satisfied many
> projects just used UML for creating few diagrams and small models with no
> logic between them and sometimes used reverse engineering only for
> documentation purposes.
> We can't accept this fate and believe that modeling is and will always be
> important. Our current problem is just related to tool flexibility.
> I have written a small article on this subject at:
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/wa terfall_versus_incrementale_modeling_cycle.html
>
>
> Omondo believes in:
> 1. a standard model (e.g. EclipseUML2 metamodel) and tool model
> interchange :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/ec lipseuml2008_dynamic_navigation.html#5._Model_interchange_wi ht_RSA_7
>
> 2. a single model approach and not multiple models with no logic between
> them :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/Mo del_Editor/Multiple_project_model/index.html
>
> 3. a full reverse by mapping all java information into the model :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/re verse/reverse/index.html#1.1_Create_a_detailled_model_includ ing
>
> UML is better than any other modeling technology (e.g. SysML, BPMN etc..)
> because UML is the only to fully cover the entire agile iterative process
> while the others are stuck in the waterfall dilemma.
>
>
> Vlad
> Omondo
>
Re: EclipseUML2 model and iterative agile process is possible [message #478048 is a reply to message #478047] Thu, 04 December 2008 18:04 Go to previous message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad VarnicaFriend
Messages: 546
Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
Kenn,

Sorry to hurt your feelings :-).

Vlad
Omondo
Re: EclipseUML2 model and iterative agile process is possible [message #627264 is a reply to message #478045] Thu, 04 December 2008 17:22 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
Messages: 1620
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Vlad,

Please kindly post future notices like this (i.e. those which could be
percevied as commercial in nature) to the eclipse.commercial newsgroup.
Thanks!

Kenn

"Vlad Varnica" <varnica@omondo.com> wrote in message
news:02627ce07e648c856b4377d64cf26bad$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi Folks,
>
> The current problem we are facing is that less and less companies are
> really using advanced UML because waterfall model is to gather input, then
> write requirements, then deliver a year later. This is not possible
> anymore in our fast changing world. Not being fully satisfied many
> projects just used UML for creating few diagrams and small models with no
> logic between them and sometimes used reverse engineering only for
> documentation purposes.
> We can't accept this fate and believe that modeling is and will always be
> important. Our current problem is just related to tool flexibility.
> I have written a small article on this subject at:
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/wa terfall_versus_incrementale_modeling_cycle.html
>
>
> Omondo believes in:
> 1. a standard model (e.g. EclipseUML2 metamodel) and tool model
> interchange :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/ec lipseuml2008_dynamic_navigation.html#5._Model_interchange_wi ht_RSA_7
>
> 2. a single model approach and not multiple models with no logic between
> them :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/Mo del_Editor/Multiple_project_model/index.html
>
> 3. a full reverse by mapping all java information into the model :
> http://www.forum-omondo.com/documentation_eclipseuml_2008/re verse/reverse/index.html#1.1_Create_a_detailled_model_includ ing
>
> UML is better than any other modeling technology (e.g. SysML, BPMN etc..)
> because UML is the only to fully cover the entire agile iterative process
> while the others are stuck in the waterfall dilemma.
>
>
> Vlad
> Omondo
>
Re: EclipseUML2 model and iterative agile process is possible [message #627265 is a reply to message #478047] Thu, 04 December 2008 18:04 Go to previous message
Vlad Varnica is currently offline Vlad VarnicaFriend
Messages: 546
Registered: July 2009
Location: Milton Keynes - UK
Senior Member
Kenn,

Sorry to hurt your feelings :-).

Vlad
Omondo
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