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Dynamic Help [message #473830] Tue, 03 June 2008 05:31 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

I have created a Dynamic Help which is opened (press F1) by an infopop. It
works fine.

If I open the normal Dynamic Help window and click on another View or
Editor it automatically opens the right describtion. But if I click on a
object in a view or editor it shows the help of its editor or view. Is
there a way to show the help for the object?
And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #473889 is a reply to message #473830] Tue, 03 June 2008 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Jenny wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have created a Dynamic Help which is opened (press F1) by an infopop.
> It works fine.
>
> If I open the normal Dynamic Help window and click on another View or
> Editor it automatically opens the right describtion. But if I click on a
> object in a view or editor it shows the help of its editor or view. Is
> there a way to show the help for the object?

The dynamic help only updates when you hit F1 or when a new view or
editor gains focus so moving around within the view will not update
dynamic help.


> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>

That is a good question. The idea behind this was to search the help
documentation based on the name of the view but the search results are
not always that useful. We've considered hiding this section so the user
would have to explicitly open it but there are some people who like it
the way it is.
Re: Dynamic Help [message #474058 is a reply to message #473830] Fri, 13 June 2008 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see the
default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help topics."
If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the same.
At the second click it shows the right description.
What have I done wrong?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #474068 is a reply to message #474058] Mon, 16 June 2008 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I found out that the problem is in the class ContextHelpPart at line 431.
The contextId is org.eclipse.ui.workbench_window_context instead of my id.
But I dont know why. Can somebody help me?

Cheers

Jenny wrote:

> Hi,

> I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
> If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see the
> default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help topics."
> If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the same.
> At the second click it shows the right description.
> What have I done wrong?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #474075 is a reply to message #474068] Wed, 18 June 2008 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
The context id is based on whatever control has focus at the time when
you open Dynamic Help. The message you are getting is a generic context
help which is displayed when the help system cannot find anything
better. Check to see if the setFocus() routine in your view is setting
the focus to a control that has context help associated or is the child
of something that has context help.

Jenny wrote:
> I found out that the problem is in the class ContextHelpPart at line
> 431. The contextId is org.eclipse.ui.workbench_window_context instead of
> my id. But I dont know why. Can somebody help me?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jenny wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
>> If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see
>> the default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help
>> topics."
>> If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the
>> same.
>> At the second click it shows the right description.
>> What have I done wrong?
>
>
Re: Dynamic Help [message #474082 is a reply to message #474075] Thu, 19 June 2008 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

found out my problem. ItŽs cause my setHelp(...) is called by a listener.
I have changed this and it works now. Thx
Re: Dynamic Help [message #475566 is a reply to message #473889] Thu, 14 May 2009 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
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>
> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>

Hi there,

I just added context sensitive help to my Application. I'm just at the
beginning so I dont' really have content in the html-files (they are
just dummy-placeholders in order to see how things work!)

I managed to get context sensitive for my views and editors
('about'-section of dynamic help, see attachment).

But there is another section 'Dynamic Help' which I was not able to
fill. Could anybody please give me a hint how I can get content in this
section?

I saw that this section is filled with some sort of search-results (eg.
when showing dynamic help for 'java editor', 'package explorer' etc.)

Any help, hints or code is deeply welcome

Thanks in advance Alex

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Re: Dynamic Help [message #475568 is a reply to message #475566] Thu, 14 May 2009 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
The dynamic help section is based on a search for terms which are
derived from the context. For example of you were in the Problems view
it would search for "problems view" and match any page which contained
the word view and the word problems. We had a lot of complaints about
the results in the dynamic help view not being relevant and very few
people understood what it was trying to do. As a result in Eclipse 3.5
the dynamic help section has been replaced by a link to search for more
results.

Eclipse 3.4 does show the search terms used so you can make sure the
same words occur in your documents so you get a search hit, but as I
said this section will go away in Eclipse 3.5.

Alex Haag wrote:
>>
>> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I just added context sensitive help to my Application. I'm just at the
> beginning so I dont' really have content in the html-files (they are
> just dummy-placeholders in order to see how things work!)
>
> I managed to get context sensitive for my views and editors
> ('about'-section of dynamic help, see attachment).
>
> But there is another section 'Dynamic Help' which I was not able to
> fill. Could anybody please give me a hint how I can get content in this
> section?
>
> I saw that this section is filled with some sort of search-results (eg.
> when showing dynamic help for 'java editor', 'package explorer' etc.)
>
> Any help, hints or code is deeply welcome
>
> Thanks in advance Alex
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>
Re: Dynamic Help [message #504618 is a reply to message #475568] Mon, 21 December 2009 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Chris, thanks for the explanation in your last post about how the Dynamic Help works.

We are getting some questions from our translators about how the Dynamic Help builds the search terms for DBCS but I believe your last entry explains it. Here is what they are seeing...

For English, the Dynamic Help section states 'Search results for "Global Settings view":' with a couple of search results returned.

http://sww.sas.com/ds-attach/S0631484/screenshot_EN.JPG

For 'zh_CN' the Dynamic Help has Chinese characters before and after 'Global Settings'. I'm assuming the Chinese characters are for the word 'view'. No search results are found though. We do not have any 'zh_CN' help content at this time but we assumed that some kindof look-thru from the Chinese to English would occur so some search results would be returned. Is that not the case?

http://sww.sas.com/ds-attach/S0631484/screenshot_CN.JPG

Thanks for the information on Dynamic Help and 3.5 as well. Can you provide a link to the changes for the User Assistance pieces in 3.5?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #504834 is a reply to message #504618] Tue, 22 December 2009 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
You probably are seeing the Chinese word for "view". This is one area where the search falls down because if you are using a language pack for Eclipse but also have views which are not translated the search phrase will contain words from Chinese and English and since all words have to match to get a search hit you will end up with no hits.
Re: Dynamic Help [message #614406 is a reply to message #473830] Tue, 03 June 2008 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Jenny wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have created a Dynamic Help which is opened (press F1) by an infopop.
> It works fine.
>
> If I open the normal Dynamic Help window and click on another View or
> Editor it automatically opens the right describtion. But if I click on a
> object in a view or editor it shows the help of its editor or view. Is
> there a way to show the help for the object?

The dynamic help only updates when you hit F1 or when a new view or
editor gains focus so moving around within the view will not update
dynamic help.


> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>

That is a good question. The idea behind this was to search the help
documentation based on the name of the view but the search results are
not always that useful. We've considered hiding this section so the user
would have to explicitly open it but there are some people who like it
the way it is.
Re: Dynamic Help [message #615230 is a reply to message #473830] Fri, 13 June 2008 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see the
default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help topics."
If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the same.
At the second click it shows the right description.
What have I done wrong?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #615268 is a reply to message #474058] Mon, 16 June 2008 09:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
I found out that the problem is in the class ContextHelpPart at line 431.
The contextId is org.eclipse.ui.workbench_window_context instead of my id.
But I dont know why. Can somebody help me?

Cheers

Jenny wrote:

> Hi,

> I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
> If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see the
> default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help topics."
> If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the same.
> At the second click it shows the right description.
> What have I done wrong?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #615291 is a reply to message #474068] Wed, 18 June 2008 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
The context id is based on whatever control has focus at the time when
you open Dynamic Help. The message you are getting is a generic context
help which is displayed when the help system cannot find anything
better. Check to see if the setFocus() routine in your view is setting
the focus to a control that has context help associated or is the child
of something that has context help.

Jenny wrote:
> I found out that the problem is in the class ContextHelpPart at line
> 431. The contextId is org.eclipse.ui.workbench_window_context instead of
> my id. But I dont know why. Can somebody help me?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jenny wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>
>> I have another problem with the Dynamic Help window.
>> If I start my prog. and open the Dynamic Help window I can only see
>> the default text "Click on any workbench part to show related help
>> topics."
>> If I click in any other Editor or View at the first time there is the
>> same.
>> At the second click it shows the right description.
>> What have I done wrong?
>
>
Re: Dynamic Help [message #617645 is a reply to message #474075] Thu, 19 June 2008 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

found out my problem. ItŽs cause my setHelp(...) is called by a listener.
I have changed this and it works now. Thx
Re: Dynamic Help [message #623353 is a reply to message #473889] Thu, 14 May 2009 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
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>
> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>

Hi there,

I just added context sensitive help to my Application. I'm just at the
beginning so I dont' really have content in the html-files (they are
just dummy-placeholders in order to see how things work!)

I managed to get context sensitive for my views and editors
('about'-section of dynamic help, see attachment).

But there is another section 'Dynamic Help' which I was not able to
fill. Could anybody please give me a hint how I can get content in this
section?

I saw that this section is filled with some sort of search-results (eg.
when showing dynamic help for 'java editor', 'package explorer' etc.)

Any help, hints or code is deeply welcome

Thanks in advance Alex

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Re: Dynamic Help [message #623355 is a reply to message #475566] Thu, 14 May 2009 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
The dynamic help section is based on a search for terms which are
derived from the context. For example of you were in the Problems view
it would search for "problems view" and match any page which contained
the word view and the word problems. We had a lot of complaints about
the results in the dynamic help view not being relevant and very few
people understood what it was trying to do. As a result in Eclipse 3.5
the dynamic help section has been replaced by a link to search for more
results.

Eclipse 3.4 does show the search terms used so you can make sure the
same words occur in your documents so you get a search hit, but as I
said this section will go away in Eclipse 3.5.

Alex Haag wrote:
>>
>> And what is the Dynamic Help in the Dynamic Help window good for?
>>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I just added context sensitive help to my Application. I'm just at the
> beginning so I dont' really have content in the html-files (they are
> just dummy-placeholders in order to see how things work!)
>
> I managed to get context sensitive for my views and editors
> ('about'-section of dynamic help, see attachment).
>
> But there is another section 'Dynamic Help' which I was not able to
> fill. Could anybody please give me a hint how I can get content in this
> section?
>
> I saw that this section is filled with some sort of search-results (eg.
> when showing dynamic help for 'java editor', 'package explorer' etc.)
>
> Any help, hints or code is deeply welcome
>
> Thanks in advance Alex
>
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>
Re: Dynamic Help [message #623800 is a reply to message #475568] Mon, 21 December 2009 14:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Chris, thanks for the explanation in your last post about how the Dynamic Help works.

We are getting some questions from our translators about how the Dynamic Help builds the search terms for DBCS but I believe your last entry explains it. Here is what they are seeing...

For English, the Dynamic Help section states 'Search results for "Global Settings view":' with a couple of search results returned.



For 'zh_CN' the Dynamic Help has Chinese characters before and after 'Global Settings'. I'm assuming the Chinese characters are for the word 'view'. No search results are found though. We do not have any 'zh_CN' help content at this time but we assumed that some kindof look-thru from the Chinese to English would occur so some search results would be returned. Is that not the case?



Thanks for the information on Dynamic Help and 3.5 as well. Can you provide a link to the changes for the User Assistance pieces in 3.5?
Re: Dynamic Help [message #623807 is a reply to message #623800] Tue, 22 December 2009 16:42 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
You probably are seeing the Chinese word for "view". This is one area where the search falls down because if you are using a language pack for Eclipse but also have views which are not translated the search phrase will contain words from Chinese and English and since all words have to match to get a search hit you will end up with no hits.
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