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What new UA features are targeted to come in Eclipse 3.4 M3? [message #469661]

Thu, 11 October 2007 11:35

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi,

The posted Eclipse 3.4 Project Plan
( http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_p lan_3_4.html)
shows the following release schedule:

Release milestones, occurring at roughly 6 week intervals, exist to
facilitate coarse-grained planning and staging. The milestones are:

* Friday Aug. 10, 2007 - Milestone 1 (3.4 M1) - stable build
* Friday Sep. 21, 2007 - Milestone 2 (3.4 M2) - stable build
* Friday Nov. 2, 2007 - Milestone 3 (3.4 M3) - stable build
* Friday Dec. 14, 2007 - Milestone 4 (3.4 M4) - stable build
* Friday Feb. 8, 2008 - Milestone 5 (3.4 M5) - stable build

I'm assuming this is still the schedule.

Is there a list of the new UA features that are targeted to come out in
the M3 milestone?

I've done a Bugzilla query on User Assistance and 3.4 M3 and 3.4 M4, and
there are few items listed in each:

3.4 M3 query:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advan ced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&c lassification=Eclipse&product=Platform&component=Use r+Assistance&version=3.4&target_milestone=3.4+M3& ;long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_l oc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboa rd_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_t ype=allwords&keywords=&emailtype1=substring&emai l1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=inclu de&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now &chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sor t+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&va lue0-0-0=
shows 200172 and 204115

3.4 M4 query says Zarro bugs found.

Thanks!
--Lee Anne

Re: What new UA features are targeted to come in Eclipse 3.4 M3? [message #469892 is a reply to message #469661]

Mon, 15 October 2007 13:51

Eclipse User

For various reasons including vacations (which I just returned from) M3
is not going to have a lot of new features for UA, the list you posted
is accurate. I'll put M4 targets on bugs at the end of M3.

One of the priorities for User Assistance work in Eclipse 3.4 is
implementing things which people have been repeatedly asking for and
which we think are a good idea but which we never quite got around to
implementing. Two bugs which fall in that category which are already
fixed are:

28649 Synchronize TOC when hyperlink followed
68518 [Webapp] Help system: Ensure 404 status is returned when topic not
available

Input from the community will help determine our priorities for what
goes into M4 and M5 so if you or anyone else has feature requests or
bugs which you care about this is as good a forum as any to make your
wishlist known.

Re: What new UA features are targeted to come in Eclipse 3.4 M3? [message #469904 is a reply to message #469892]

Tue, 16 October 2007 09:10

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi Chris, thanks for this update. I trust your vacation was a good
one--and you're back with creative energy. :-)

Is there any special format in which you want the input from the
community on what features or bugs they want in which milestone?

I mean, I've been reminding people to go into Bugzilla and Vote for the
features and bugs that they want. Should I continue to do that? Are the
most-voted-for entries getting on the UA team's radar in terms of
prioritization?

Request https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=37714 has 16 votes
is still high for a number of adopters, if the votes are any indication.

Thanks,
Lee Anne

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> For various reasons including vacations (which I just returned from) M3
> is not going to have a lot of new features for UA, the list you posted
> is accurate. I'll put M4 targets on bugs at the end of M3.
>
> One of the priorities for User Assistance work in Eclipse 3.4 is
> implementing things which people have been repeatedly asking for and
> which we think are a good idea but which we never quite got around to
> implementing. Two bugs which fall in that category which are already
> fixed are:
>
> 28649 Synchronize TOC when hyperlink followed
> 68518 [Webapp] Help system: Ensure 404 status is returned when topic
> not available
>
> Input from the community will help determine our priorities for what
> goes into M4 and M5 so if you or anyone else has feature requests or
> bugs which you care about this is as good a forum as any to make your
> wishlist known.
>

Vote counts for UA Bugzilla entries with Status = New [message #469907 is a reply to message #469892]

Tue, 16 October 2007 09:36

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com

Hi,

Posting for community discussion.

OK, I finally figured out how to display the UA Bugzilla entries that
are not already resolved in some way (Status=New) and Votes > 0.
(I did not split out "enhancement" vs "bug" in this query.)

Query Link:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=& bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_status= NEW&bugidtype=include&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now &chfieldvalue=&classification=Eclipse&component= User%20Assistance&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=sub string&emailtype2=substring&field-1-0-0=bug_status&a mp;field-1-1-0=classification&field-1-2-0=component& field-1-3-0=product&field0-0-0=votes&field0-1-0=bug_ severity&field0-1-1=noop&keywords=&keywords_type =allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&a mp;product=Platform&query_format=advanced&remaction= &short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&stat us_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr& ;type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0= anyexact&type-1-3-0=anyexact&type0-0-0=greaterthan&a mp;type0-1-0=notequals&type0-1-1=noop&value-1-0-0=NE W&value-1-1-0=Eclipse&value-1-2-0=User%20Assistance& amp;value-1-3-0=Platform&value0-0-0=0&value0-1-0=&am p;value0-1-1=&votes=&order=bugs.votes%2Cbugs.priorit y%2Cbugs.bug_severity&query_based_on=

In terms of Vote count, the ones with more than one vote are:

Bug Votes Summary
37714 16 [Help] Allow infocenter to run on existing app server
67543 6 [Help] Modal dialog in Help browser impacts other Eclipse
windows

202160 6 [Help] Add a feature for the Eclipse help system
107648 5 [Help] Boost rank of Search hits when content match is in <title>

173128 3 [Browser] provide preference for choosing Browser renderer

45030 3 [Webapp] Advanced Search Dialog Needs "Select/Deselect All"
Buttons

68666 2 [Browser] Documentation in Adobe freezes up

110909 2 [Help] Help does not work on Java Webstart deployed RCP
applications

118480 2 [Forms] FormText text disappears if only one word

173288 2 [Help][Context] Support wizards/dialogs for IContextProvider

194443 2 [Forms] FormText for bolded text not painted properly

109685 2 [Help] let author control search index better

127258 2 [Forms] FormEditor changes to setActivePage(*)

191580 2 [CheatSheet] no bolding in cheatsheet subitems

27343 2 [Help] TOC tag does not support icon="Myimage.gif"

36508 2 [Webapp] Increase level of help search scoping

38052 2 [Help] Add alphabetical ordering attribute to TOC DTD

There are more that only have one vote of course, and a large set with
Vote=0 (but the zero ones aren't in the query above).

--Lee Anne

Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
> For various reasons including vacations (which I just returned from) M3
> is not going to have a lot of new features for UA, the list you posted
> is accurate. I'll put M4 targets on bugs at the end of M3.
>
> One of the priorities for User Assistance work in Eclipse 3.4 is
> implementing things which people have been repeatedly asking for and
> which we think are a good idea but which we never quite got around to
> implementing. Two bugs which fall in that category which are already
> fixed are:
>
> 28649 Synchronize TOC when hyperlink followed
> 68518 [Webapp] Help system: Ensure 404 status is returned when topic
> not available
>
> Input from the community will help determine our priorities for what
> goes into M4 and M5 so if you or anyone else has feature requests or
> bugs which you care about this is as good a forum as any to make your
> wishlist known.
>

Re: Vote counts for UA Bugzilla entries with Status = New [message #469913 is a reply to message #469907]

Tue, 16 October 2007 14:52

Eclipse User

Thanks for the list. I've added comments to a few of your entries.

Lee Anne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Posting for community discussion.
>
> OK, I finally figured out how to display the UA Bugzilla entries that
> are not already resolved in some way (Status=New) and Votes > 0.
> (I did not split out "enhancement" vs "bug" in this query.)
>
> Query Link:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=& bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_status= NEW&bugidtype=include&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now &chfieldvalue=&classification=Eclipse&component= User%20Assistance&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=sub string&emailtype2=substring&field-1-0-0=bug_status&a mp;field-1-1-0=classification&field-1-2-0=component& field-1-3-0=product&field0-0-0=votes&field0-1-0=bug_ severity&field0-1-1=noop&keywords=&keywords_type =allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&a mp;product=Platform&query_format=advanced&remaction= &short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&stat us_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr& ;type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0= anyexact&type-1-3-0=anyexact&type0-0-0=greaterthan&a mp;type0-1-0=notequals&type0-1-1=noop&value-1-0-0=NE W&value-1-1-0=Eclipse&value-1-2-0=User%20Assistance& amp;value-1-3-0=Platform&value0-0-0=0&value0-1-0=&am p;value0-1-1=&votes=&order=bugs.votes%2Cbugs.priorit y%2Cbugs.bug_severity&query_based_o
n=
>
>
>
> In terms of Vote count, the ones with more than one vote are:
>
> Bug Votes Summary
> 37714 16 [Help] Allow infocenter to run on existing app server

This is under serious consideration. We may be able to get a patch
contributed, see also Bug 201666.

> 67543 6 [Help] Modal dialog in Help browser impacts
> other Eclipse windows

This was partly fixed for Windows in Eclipse 3.2 but still exists on
GTK. Probably will not be addressed in Eclipse 3.4.
>
> 202160 6 [Help] Add a feature for the Eclipse help system

Targeted for Eclipse 3.4

> 107648 5 [Help] Boost rank of Search hits when content match is
> in <title>

Also under serious consideration for Eclipse 3.4.
>
> 173128 3 [Browser] provide preference for choosing Browser renderer
>
> 45030 3 [Webapp] Advanced Search Dialog Needs "Select/Deselect
> All" Buttons

I'm surprised this has 3 votes, it's pretty easy to implement.
>
> 68666 2 [Browser] Documentation in Adobe freezes up
>
> 110909 2 [Help] Help does not work on Java Webstart deployed RCP
> applications
>
> 118480 2 [Forms] FormText text disappears if only one word
>
> 173288 2 [Help][Context] Support wizards/dialogs for
> IContextProvider
>
> 194443 2 [Forms] FormText for bolded text not painted properly
>
> 109685 2 [Help] let author control search index better
>
> 127258 2 [Forms] FormEditor changes to setActivePage(*)
>
> 191580 2 [CheatSheet] no bolding in cheatsheet subitems
>
> 27343 2 [Help] TOC tag does not support icon="Myimage.gif"
>
> 36508 2 [Webapp] Increase level of help search scoping
>
> 38052 2 [Help] Add alphabetical ordering attribute to TOC DTD

Under consideration, probably not difficult to implement.
>
> There are more that only have one vote of course, and a large set with
> Vote=0 (but the zero ones aren't in the query above).
>
> --Lee Anne

There are some other bugs which have a large number of comments or have
been reported multiple times which make the list of frequently
encountered problems. We would also like to fix

Bug 153295 – [Intro] Labels for links should always be visible in the intro

Confusion about the "Dynamic Help" section of the help view has also
been a recurring theme.

Re: Vote counts for UA Bugzilla entries with Status = New [message #470170 is a reply to message #469907]

Sat, 27 October 2007 08:02

Eclipse User

Hi Lee Anne,
thanks for finding this bugzilla incantation ;)
I'm particularly interested in 36508. I was about to ask a question
about this.
Here are a couple of search scopes, I'd like to create in the Eclipse SDK:
- "Platform Plug-in Developer Guide > Programmer's Guide > User
assistance support" topics
- "Platform Plug-in Developer Guide > Reference > API Reference" topics
But I can't, because of the 2-level limitation.
So I added a vote for this issue.

I don't know whether the number of votes really determines the priorities.

To the eclipse-ua developers: can you make sure that "3.2.x regression
bugs" in 3.3.x receive a high enough priority during the 3.4
development, regardless of the number of votes?

Here are a few, that I know of:

188090: [Help] [Context] Additional context help does not show up
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=188090
-> this one is a major loss of functionality for us as one of our doc
plugin has several contexts files and a context id may be used in
several contexts files.

187925: [Webapp] Restore possibility to expand TOC items by clicking name
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=187925
-> this one is really annoying
All online help formats I'm familiar with have the expand/collapse toc
functionality by double clicking the "toc item label":
- pdf (bookmarks)
- html help (ie chm files)
- "mozilla help" (ie in Firefox, select Help > Help Contents)
- oracle help for java
- html help 2 (ie hxs files)

194726: [Help] Improve/restore displayHelp command behavior
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194726
-> a fix for the #2 scenario would be nice to have, as our doc plugins
have a topic attribute on the root toc element of the primary toc.
But I'm aware that not everyone does.

197289: [Help] Search scope / result category problems with topic
attribute on toc element
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=197289
-> same motivation as #194726

As you may have noticed, I'm either the reporter or a commenter for
these issues. So I'm biased ;)

Regards,
Pierre

Lee Anne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Posting for community discussion.
>
> OK, I finally figured out how to display the UA Bugzilla entries that
> are not already resolved in some way (Status=New) and Votes > 0.
> (I did not split out "enhancement" vs "bug" in this query.)
>
> Query Link:
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=& bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_status= NEW&bugidtype=include&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now &chfieldvalue=&classification=Eclipse&component= User%20Assistance&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=sub string&emailtype2=substring&field-1-0-0=bug_status&a mp;field-1-1-0=classification&field-1-2-0=component& field-1-3-0=product&field0-0-0=votes&field0-1-0=bug_ severity&field0-1-1=noop&keywords=&keywords_type =allwords&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&a mp;product=Platform&query_format=advanced&remaction= &short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&stat us_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr& ;type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0= anyexact&type-1-3-0=anyexact&type0-0-0=greaterthan&a mp;type0-1-0=notequals&type0-1-1=noop&value-1-0-0=NE W&value-1-1-0=Eclipse&value-1-2-0=User%20Assistance& amp;value-1-3-0=Platform&value0-0-0=0&value0-1-0=&am p;value0-1-1=&votes=&order=bugs.votes%2Cbugs.priorit y%2Cbugs.bug_severity&query_based_o
n=
>
>
>
> In terms of Vote count, the ones with more than one vote are:
>
> Bug Votes Summary
> 37714 16 [Help] Allow infocenter to run on existing app server
> 67543 6 [Help] Modal dialog in Help browser impacts
> other Eclipse windows
>
> 202160 6 [Help] Add a feature for the Eclipse help system
> 107648 5 [Help] Boost rank of Search hits when content match is
> in <title>
>
> 173128 3 [Browser] provide preference for choosing Browser renderer
>
> 45030 3 [Webapp] Advanced Search Dialog Needs "Select/Deselect
> All" Buttons
>
> 68666 2 [Browser] Documentation in Adobe freezes up
>
> 110909 2 [Help] Help does not work on Java Webstart deployed RCP
> applications
>
> 118480 2 [Forms] FormText text disappears if only one word
>
> 173288 2 [Help][Context] Support wizards/dialogs for
> IContextProvider
>
> 194443 2 [Forms] FormText for bolded text not painted properly
>
> 109685 2 [Help] let author control search index better
>
> 127258 2 [Forms] FormEditor changes to setActivePage(*)
>
> 191580 2 [CheatSheet] no bolding in cheatsheet subitems
>
> 27343 2 [Help] TOC tag does not support icon="Myimage.gif"
>
> 36508 2 [Webapp] Increase level of help search scoping
>
> 38052 2 [Help] Add alphabetical ordering attribute to TOC DTD
>
> There are more that only have one vote of course, and a large set with
> Vote=0 (but the zero ones aren't in the query above).
>
> --Lee Anne
>
>
> Chris Goldthorpe wrote:
>> For various reasons including vacations (which I just returned from)
>> M3 is not going to have a lot of new features for UA, the list you
>> posted is accurate. I'll put M4 targets on bugs at the end of M3.
>>
>> One of the priorities for User Assistance work in Eclipse 3.4 is
>> implementing things which people have been repeatedly asking for and
>> which we think are a good idea but which we never quite got around to
>> implementing. Two bugs which fall in that category which are already
>> fixed are:
>>
>> 28649 Synchronize TOC when hyperlink followed
>> 68518 [Webapp] Help system: Ensure 404 status is returned when
>> topic not available
>>
>> Input from the community will help determine our priorities for what
>> goes into M4 and M5 so if you or anyone else has feature requests or
>> bugs which you care about this is as good a forum as any to make your
>> wishlist known.
>>

Re: What new UA features are targeted to come in Eclipse 3.4 M3? [message #588614 is a reply to message #469661]

Mon, 15 October 2007 13:51

Eclipse User