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UML 2 GMF models [message #469341] Tue, 27 February 2007 16:10 Go to next message
Andy Evans is currently offline Andy EvansFriend
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Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
a cursory look, but can only see the Java.

Thanks,

Andy
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469347 is a reply to message #469341] Tue, 27 February 2007 22:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
patches. There is a bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808

Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.


Geoffrey

ase wrote:
> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469361 is a reply to message #469347] Wed, 28 February 2007 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, essential really.

Andy
"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
> patches. There is a bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>
> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>
>
> Geoffrey
>
> ase wrote:
>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469366 is a reply to message #469361] Wed, 28 February 2007 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it produces,
no?

Kenn

"ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Yes, essential really.
>
> Andy
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
>> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
>> patches. There is a bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>
>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>>
>>
>> Geoffrey
>>
>> ase wrote:
>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andy
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469371 is a reply to message #469366] Wed, 28 February 2007 16:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And... What about if I want to and editor that represents Interfaces as
boxes (like classes) instead of using a circle?

Or imagine that I only need an editor for a subset of the elements of the
class diagram, not allowing the editor to add, modify or represent elements
that are not includied in this subset?

And... if I want to add OCL expresions to constraint the designs made by the
user? (to allow only unary associations, for example)
And what if.......?

I had to do such things (for example) in the past (well, I had to develop 3
different editors, each one for a different subset of the class diagram),
and I had to do it manually. It took me 2 or 3 weeks, modifying files with
thousands of lines of code. :-(

A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469379 is a reply to message #469371] Wed, 28 February 2007 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options or
extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2 Tools -
please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed to provide
this kind of flexibility.

Kenn

"A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469384 is a reply to message #469366] Wed, 28 February 2007 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
this going through the code.

So please. Just for a look.

Thanks

Geoffrey


Kenn Hussey wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it produces,
> no?
>
> Kenn
>
> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Yes, essential really.
>>
>> Andy
>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
>>> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
>>> patches. There is a bug
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>
>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Geoffrey
>>>
>>> ase wrote:
>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469390 is a reply to message #469379] Wed, 28 February 2007 21:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,

We have a requirement to integrate UML 2 tools with DSL tools, and having
the GMF definitions is an essential requirement. We also have requirements
to
modify the tools.

I'm concerned there is a reticence to release the GMF models. Can you
explain
the motivation for not releasing them?

Andy

"Kenn Hussey" <khussey@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:es4ign$p2u$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options
>or extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2
>Tools - please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed
>to provide this kind of flexibility.
>
> Kenn
>
> "A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469498 is a reply to message #469384] Thu, 01 March 2007 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi,

I'd like to second that. Couldn't the UML2 tools serve as great examples
for the usage of GMF? Btw: As far as I can see, none of the existing GMF
examples comes with mapping files, they just show how to use the GMF API.

Cheers,
Christian


Geoffrey Rekier schrieb:
> For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
> some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
> look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
> and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
> this going through the code.
>
> So please. Just for a look.
>
> Thanks
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
>> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it
>> produces, no?
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
>> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> Yes, essential really.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by
>>>> M5 release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need
>>>> custom patches. There is a bug
>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really
>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>
>>>> ase wrote:
>>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469500 is a reply to message #469384] Thu, 01 March 2007 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Claude Bernard Diesse is currently offline Claude Bernard DiesseFriend
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Hi Kenn,
I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on top
of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and so
far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until I
saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
diagrams.

How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
....)

Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
components ...)

Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
tutorials, for my domains)

I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
profile for
a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help create
standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile ?



"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469503 is a reply to message #469390] Fri, 02 March 2007 20:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Andy,

As Michael has explained previously, the reason for the delay is that a
patched version of the GMF code generator is currently required to
successfully generate code from them, i.e. they would be of little use to
you because GMF can't generate code from them out of the box... In the
meantime, we thank you for your patience and appreciate your feedback on the
tools.

Kenn

"ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
news:es4ssa$jdn$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Ken,
>
> We have a requirement to integrate UML 2 tools with DSL tools, and having
> the GMF definitions is an essential requirement. We also have requirements
> to
> modify the tools.
>
> I'm concerned there is a reticence to release the GMF models. Can you
> explain
> the motivation for not releasing them?
>
> Andy
>
> "Kenn Hussey" <khussey@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:es4ign$p2u$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options
>>or extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2
>>Tools - please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed
>>to provide this kind of flexibility.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469505 is a reply to message #469500] Fri, 02 March 2007 23:41 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Claude,

I'm glad to hear that the advent of UML2 Tools has opened new possibilitie
for you. The "standard" way to do the kind of reduction you mention is via
profiles. That is, if a given profile references only specific metaclasses
and is applied in "strict" mode, an application is supposed to hide the
concepts that are not referenced. I'm not sure whether this kind of
capability fits into the current plan for UML2 Tools, but I'd suggest
opening an ehancement request in Bugzilla so that this kind of functionality
can be considered in the future.

There's currently no plan to provide implementations of JPA or EJB3
profiles, but we are considering proposals to add components for SysML and
BPMN (and associated profiles) to MDT... mind you, one of the goals of MDT
(and Modeling) is to help drive standards, so this might be something we'd
consider (if someone were to propose it). ;)

Kenn

"Claude Bernard Diesse" <cdiesse@kasorsoft.com> wrote in message
news:es7amo$sab$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Kenn,
> I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on
> top of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and
> so far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until
> I saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
> uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
> MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
> EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
> user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
> diagrams.
>
> How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
> ...)
>
> Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
> components ...)
>
> Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
> tutorials, for my domains)
>
> I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
> profile for
> a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help
> create standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile
> ?
>
>
>
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572178 is a reply to message #469341] Tue, 27 February 2007 22:48 Go to previous message
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It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
patches. There is a bug
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808

Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.


Geoffrey

ase wrote:
> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572254 is a reply to message #469347] Wed, 28 February 2007 10:13 Go to previous message
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Yes, essential really.

Andy
"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
> patches. There is a bug
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>
> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>
>
> Geoffrey
>
> ase wrote:
>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572288 is a reply to message #469361] Wed, 28 February 2007 14:56 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it produces,
no?

Kenn

"ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Yes, essential really.
>
> Andy
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
>> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
>> patches. There is a bug
>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>
>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>>
>>
>> Geoffrey
>>
>> ase wrote:
>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andy
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572314 is a reply to message #469366] Wed, 28 February 2007 16:13 Go to previous message
No real name is currently offline No real nameFriend
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And... What about if I want to and editor that represents Interfaces as
boxes (like classes) instead of using a circle?

Or imagine that I only need an editor for a subset of the elements of the
class diagram, not allowing the editor to add, modify or represent elements
that are not includied in this subset?

And... if I want to add OCL expresions to constraint the designs made by the
user? (to allow only unary associations, for example)
And what if.......?

I had to do such things (for example) in the past (well, I had to develop 3
different editors, each one for a different subset of the class diagram),
and I had to do it manually. It took me 2 or 3 weeks, modifying files with
thousands of lines of code. :-(

A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572397 is a reply to message #469371] Wed, 28 February 2007 18:43 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options or
extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2 Tools -
please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed to provide
this kind of flexibility.

Kenn

"A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572469 is a reply to message #469366] Wed, 28 February 2007 20:35 Go to previous message
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For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
this going through the code.

So please. Just for a look.

Thanks

Geoffrey


Kenn Hussey wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it produces,
> no?
>
> Kenn
>
> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Yes, essential really.
>>
>> Andy
>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by M5
>>> release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need custom
>>> patches. There is a bug
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>
>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really nice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Geoffrey
>>>
>>> ase wrote:
>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>
>
>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572491 is a reply to message #469379] Wed, 28 February 2007 21:40 Go to previous message
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Ken,

We have a requirement to integrate UML 2 tools with DSL tools, and having
the GMF definitions is an essential requirement. We also have requirements
to
modify the tools.

I'm concerned there is a reticence to release the GMF models. Can you
explain
the motivation for not releasing them?

Andy

"Kenn Hussey" <khussey@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:es4ign$p2u$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options
>or extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2
>Tools - please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed
>to provide this kind of flexibility.
>
> Kenn
>
> "A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572517 is a reply to message #469384] Thu, 01 March 2007 07:47 Go to previous message
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Hi,

I'd like to second that. Couldn't the UML2 tools serve as great examples
for the usage of GMF? Btw: As far as I can see, none of the existing GMF
examples comes with mapping files, they just show how to use the GMF API.

Cheers,
Christian


Geoffrey Rekier schrieb:
> For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
> some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
> look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
> and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
> this going through the code.
>
> So please. Just for a look.
>
> Thanks
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
>> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it
>> produces, no?
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
>> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> Yes, essential really.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by
>>>> M5 release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need
>>>> custom patches. There is a bug
>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really
>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>
>>>> ase wrote:
>>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>>
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572584 is a reply to message #469384] Thu, 01 March 2007 19:50 Go to previous message
Claude Bernard Diesse is currently offline Claude Bernard DiesseFriend
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Hi Kenn,
I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on top
of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and so
far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until I
saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
diagrams.

How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
....)

Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
components ...)

Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
tutorials, for my domains)

I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
profile for
a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help create
standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile ?



"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572635 is a reply to message #469390] Fri, 02 March 2007 20:29 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Andy,

As Michael has explained previously, the reason for the delay is that a
patched version of the GMF code generator is currently required to
successfully generate code from them, i.e. they would be of little use to
you because GMF can't generate code from them out of the box... In the
meantime, we thank you for your patience and appreciate your feedback on the
tools.

Kenn

"ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
news:es4ssa$jdn$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Ken,
>
> We have a requirement to integrate UML 2 tools with DSL tools, and having
> the GMF definitions is an essential requirement. We also have requirements
> to
> modify the tools.
>
> I'm concerned there is a reticence to release the GMF models. Can you
> explain
> the motivation for not releasing them?
>
> Andy
>
> "Kenn Hussey" <khussey@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:es4ign$p2u$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>I see. It sounds like some of these things could/should either be options
>>or extension points provided by the various editors provided by UML2
>>Tools - please open Bugzilla requests for the changes you feel are needed
>>to provide this kind of flexibility.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "A. G
Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #584534 is a reply to message #469500] Fri, 02 March 2007 23:41 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Claude,

I'm glad to hear that the advent of UML2 Tools has opened new possibilitie
for you. The "standard" way to do the kind of reduction you mention is via
profiles. That is, if a given profile references only specific metaclasses
and is applied in "strict" mode, an application is supposed to hide the
concepts that are not referenced. I'm not sure whether this kind of
capability fits into the current plan for UML2 Tools, but I'd suggest
opening an ehancement request in Bugzilla so that this kind of functionality
can be considered in the future.

There's currently no plan to provide implementations of JPA or EJB3
profiles, but we are considering proposals to add components for SysML and
BPMN (and associated profiles) to MDT... mind you, one of the goals of MDT
(and Modeling) is to help drive standards, so this might be something we'd
consider (if someone were to propose it). ;)

Kenn

"Claude Bernard Diesse" <cdiesse@kasorsoft.com> wrote in message
news:es7amo$sab$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Kenn,
> I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on
> top of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and
> so far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until
> I saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
> uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
> MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
> EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
> user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
> diagrams.
>
> How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
> ...)
>
> Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
> components ...)
>
> Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
> tutorials, for my domains)
>
> I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
> profile for
> a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help
> create standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile
> ?
>
>
>
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
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