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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469498 is a reply to message #469384] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 07:47 |
chris Messages: 72 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi,
I'd like to second that. Couldn't the UML2 tools serve as great examples
for the usage of GMF? Btw: As far as I can see, none of the existing GMF
examples comes with mapping files, they just show how to use the GMF API.
Cheers,
Christian
Geoffrey Rekier schrieb:
> For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
> some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
> look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
> and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
> this going through the code.
>
> So please. Just for a look.
>
> Thanks
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
>> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it
>> produces, no?
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
>> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> Yes, essential really.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by
>>>> M5 release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need
>>>> custom patches. There is a bug
>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really
>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>
>>>> ase wrote:
>>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469500 is a reply to message #469384] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 19:50 |
Claude Bernard Diesse Messages: 7 Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi Kenn,
I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on top
of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and so
far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until I
saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
diagrams.
How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
....)
Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
components ...)
Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
tutorials, for my domains)
I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
profile for
a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help create
standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile ?
"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #469505 is a reply to message #469500] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 23:41 |
Kenn Hussey Messages: 1620 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Claude,
I'm glad to hear that the advent of UML2 Tools has opened new possibilitie
for you. The "standard" way to do the kind of reduction you mention is via
profiles. That is, if a given profile references only specific metaclasses
and is applied in "strict" mode, an application is supposed to hide the
concepts that are not referenced. I'm not sure whether this kind of
capability fits into the current plan for UML2 Tools, but I'd suggest
opening an ehancement request in Bugzilla so that this kind of functionality
can be considered in the future.
There's currently no plan to provide implementations of JPA or EJB3
profiles, but we are considering proposals to add components for SysML and
BPMN (and associated profiles) to MDT... mind you, one of the goals of MDT
(and Modeling) is to help drive standards, so this might be something we'd
consider (if someone were to propose it). ;)
Kenn
"Claude Bernard Diesse" <cdiesse@kasorsoft.com> wrote in message
news:es7amo$sab$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Kenn,
> I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on
> top of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and
> so far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until
> I saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
> uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
> MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
> EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
> user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
> diagrams.
>
> How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
> ...)
>
> Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
> components ...)
>
> Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
> tutorials, for my domains)
>
> I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
> profile for
> a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help
> create standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile
> ?
>
>
>
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572517 is a reply to message #469384] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 07:47 |
chris Messages: 72 Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
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Hi,
I'd like to second that. Couldn't the UML2 tools serve as great examples
for the usage of GMF? Btw: As far as I can see, none of the existing GMF
examples comes with mapping files, they just show how to use the GMF API.
Cheers,
Christian
Geoffrey Rekier schrieb:
> For my part, it is not essential but it would be nice to help understand
> some parts of GMF. And I didn't think it would be any problem to have a
> look at them. I do actually try to develop an Activity Diagram editor
> and get some problems that you don't and can't find out how you solve
> this going through the code.
>
> So please. Just for a look.
>
> Thanks
>
> Geoffrey
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand why they are essential... UML2 Tools is an
>> end-user component, so all that really matters are the diagrams it
>> produces, no?
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>> "ase" <andye@xactium.com> wrote in message
>> news:es3kjj$g8l$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> Yes, essential really.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:es2cfr$bc9$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>>> It says here somewhere that there was hope having them available by
>>>> M5 release. Something about problems with the GMF plugin that need
>>>> custom patches. There is a bug
>>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=165808
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I did not find them either and agree that it would be really
>>>> nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Geoffrey
>>>>
>>>> ase wrote:
>>>>> Are the GMF models available for the UML 2 tools?
>>>>> They would be a very useful resource if so. I've had
>>>>> a cursory look, but can only see the Java.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #572584 is a reply to message #469384] |
Thu, 01 March 2007 19:50 |
Claude Bernard Diesse Messages: 7 Registered: July 2009 |
Junior Member |
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Hi Kenn,
I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on top
of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and so
far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until I
saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
diagrams.
How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
....)
Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
components ...)
Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
tutorials, for my domains)
I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
profile for
a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help create
standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile ?
"Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
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Re: UML 2 GMF models [message #584534 is a reply to message #469500] |
Fri, 02 March 2007 23:41 |
Kenn Hussey Messages: 1620 Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Claude,
I'm glad to hear that the advent of UML2 Tools has opened new possibilitie
for you. The "standard" way to do the kind of reduction you mention is via
profiles. That is, if a given profile references only specific metaclasses
and is applied in "strict" mode, an application is supposed to hide the
concepts that are not referenced. I'm not sure whether this kind of
capability fits into the current plan for UML2 Tools, but I'd suggest
opening an ehancement request in Bugzilla so that this kind of functionality
can be considered in the future.
There's currently no plan to provide implementations of JPA or EJB3
profiles, but we are considering proposals to add components for SysML and
BPMN (and associated profiles) to MDT... mind you, one of the goals of MDT
(and Modeling) is to help drive standards, so this might be something we'd
consider (if someone were to propose it). ;)
Kenn
"Claude Bernard Diesse" <cdiesse@kasorsoft.com> wrote in message
news:es7amo$sab$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Hi Kenn,
> I am working on a ERP-like application and need to ajust a MDA tools on
> top of that application. Since 2004, I am looking at the UML2 project, and
> so far not seeing how I can leverage it for my application needs ... Until
> I saw that you are going further in the integration process with the
> uml2tools. So, My new target is to leverage the umltools as the base of my
> MDA tools, specific for my application in the first step : JEE5 (JPA +
> EJB3) and BPMN modeling and generation. I want to be able to reduce the
> user views (menus, actions, Edit parts) to only required UML concepts and
> diagrams.
>
> How can I do this reduction, using the uml2.diagram packages ? (no models
> ...)
>
> Don't I need original models (GMFs EMFs) to reduce ? (taking out undesired
> components ...)
>
> Is UML Profile another way to do it ? (this will take more advanced
> tutorials, for my domains)
>
> I want to mention that I am not sure to be able to create a consistent
> profile for
> a domain like JPA, or EJB3 at this moment. Is there any plan to help
> create standards profiles like that? or where can we find existing profile
> ?
>
>
>
> "Geoffrey Rekier" <grekier@gmail.com> a
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