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SWT on Vista/Avalon [message #467210]

Thu, 26 January 2006 14:22

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: gennady_vanin-online.yahoo.com.br

Hi,
I see that SWT is hooked to Win32 API.
But it is discontinued for future releases of of MS Windows that are based
on WinFX/XAML/XOML.

How this issue can be addressed by SWT?
How can SWT application be run on Vista?
Correct me,
Guennadi Vanine

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Re: SWT on Vista/Avalon [message #467213 is a reply to message #467210]

Thu, 26 January 2006 15:06

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: richkulp.us.NO_SPAM.ibm.com

I don't know anything about Vista, but SWT is not "hooked" on win32.
There is an implementation of SWT for win32, a separate one for
Linux/GTK, and another one for MacOS. So when Vista is available someone
will have to step up to write an implementation of SWT for Vista. Then
all you do is install that implementation instead of the win32.

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Hi,
> I see that SWT is hooked to Win32 API.
> But it is discontinued for future releases of of MS Windows that are
> based on WinFX/XAML/XOML.
>
> How this issue can be addressed by SWT? How can SWT application be run
> on Vista?
> Correct me,
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>

--
Thanks,
Rich Kulp

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Re: SWT on Vista/Avalon [message #467220 is a reply to message #467210]

Thu, 26 January 2006 16:22

Jeff Myers

Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009

Senior Member

Guennadi Vanine,

You can watch the progress of SWT support on Windows Vista from this bug
report:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=78839

It's doubtful that Vista would not include the win32 APIs used by SWT -
if this were the case all existing Windows apps wouldn't work. Getting
SWT to make use of the UI enhancements provided by the new Vista APIs is
a whole different concern that will presumably be addressed as Vista
becomes commonplace.

Hope this helps,
- Jeff

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then SWT vs AWT? [message #467228 is a reply to message #467220]

Thu, 26 January 2006 18:20

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

"Jeff Myers" wrote:
> It's doubtful that Vista would not include the win32 APIs used by SWT - if
> this were the case all existing Windows apps wouldn't work.
Yeaah, I came to this thought after posting.

>Getting SWT to make use of the UI enhancements provided by the new >Vista
>APIs is a whole different concern that will presumably be addressed as
>Vista becomes commonplace.
Certainly, since people report that even VS .NET 2005 has problems in Vista,
so far.
But this (re)turns me to question of AWT/Swing vs. SWT/JFace

My concern is that I should reimplement an existing in Swing/AWT
application. And I cannot get the rationale of rigid stipulation to me in
abandoning any idea of reutilization of it.

I just want to understand the rationale

What is wrong in idea to migrate the Swing/AWT code into Eclipse plugin
through bridges SWT in AWT (or AWT in SWT)?

Guennadi Vanine

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Re: SWT on Vista/Avalon [message #467232 is a reply to message #467213]

Thu, 26 January 2006 19:06

Daniel Spiewak

Messages: 263
Registered: July 2009

Senior Member

Actually, SWT already runs on vista. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=78839 I don't know if a non-win32 Windows port is already in the works, but as Rich pointed out, it wouldn't be a problem.

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i.e. not natively? [message #467236 is a reply to message #467220]

Thu, 26 January 2006 20:30

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

> It's doubtful that Vista would not include the win32 APIs used by SWT - if
> this were the case all existing Windows apps wouldn't work. Getting
Yeah, but will it be like running COM from .NET (or win16 in win32) through
wrappers/adapters
Just curious where is the gain for me to abandon existing Swing/AWT code for
SWT/JFace

Guennadi Vanine

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Re: i.e. not natively? [message #467245 is a reply to message #467236]

Fri, 27 January 2006 02:57

Daniel Spiewak

Messages: 263
Registered: July 2009

Senior Member

SWT apps will function exactly like a native win32 app in Vista. There will be no perceptable difference. And when a WinFX version of SWT comes out (probably with Eclipse 4.0 to be released next year??) SWT will have native support for Vista enhancements just like a native WinFX app. I suggest you check out the bug report, it will give you the most complete information and (if you have an Eclipse bugzilla account) will allow you to post questions directly to the developers handling the port.

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