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Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453780] Fri, 08 April 2005 17:34 Go to next message
Clemens Eisserer is currently offline Clemens EissererFriend
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Do you think a SWING port of SWT would be useful, e.g. for
Applet-Distribution or Webstart where someone does not want to include
native libs?

What do you think?

lg Clemens
Re: Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453787 is a reply to message #453780] Fri, 08 April 2005 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ted stockwell is currently offline ted stockwellFriend
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Do you think a SWING port of SWT would be useful, e.g. for
> Applet-Distribution or Webstart where someone does not want to include
> native libs?
>
> What do you think?
>
> lg Clemens
>


Yeah, I think a Swing port of SWT makes sense for those reasons.

I think that a Swing port would also have the following additional advantages...

....Would make it possible to develop Look & Feels for SWT. Heresy yes, but it would be useful for someone that want's to
develop a non-IDE application with the RCP and that wants thier application to have a 'branded' look & feel instead of a native L&F.

....a Swing-based version of SWT would be more cross-platform than 'plain-vanilla' SWT since Swing guarantees some UI behavior
across platforms (like focus behavior) whereas SWT provides no such cross-platform guarantees.

....would make it easier to port an existing Swing application to the RCP and avoid a 'Franken-UI' result.
Re: Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453790 is a reply to message #453787] Sat, 09 April 2005 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Clemens Eisserer is currently offline Clemens EissererFriend
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Hmm - cause I am working on such a port and first visible results are
there ;-)
However the company I am employed at is still thinking howto release it...
Re: Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453796 is a reply to message #453790] Sat, 09 April 2005 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Daniel Spiewak is currently offline Daniel SpiewakFriend
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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<font face="serif">You know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but
its been done, or rather commenced, the port was never finished. 
You'll find under SWTSwing at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://chrriis.brainlex.com/projects/swtswing/index.html">http://chrriis.brainlex.com/projects/swtswing/index.html</a><br>
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Daniel<br>
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Clemens Eisserer wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid70fa8015c4d81c2a356f2dd472aec5b8$1@www.eclipse.org"
type="cite">Hmm - cause I am working on such a port and first visible
results are there ;-)
<br>
However the company I am employed at is still thinking howto release
it...
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Re: Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453807 is a reply to message #453796] Sun, 10 April 2005 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ivan Markov is currently offline Ivan MarkovFriend
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Christopher, the maintainer of SWTSwing contacted me with a few questions
about a month ago.
I think he was determined to resurrect the project, which was kind of dead
during the last year. But haven't heard anything from him since then.
Clemens, you may want to ask him what the status of this project is..

-Ivan

"Daniel Spiewak" <djspiewak@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:d398oe$ku1$1@news.eclipse.org...
You know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its been done, or rather
commenced, the port was never finished. You'll find under SWTSwing at
http://chrriis.brainlex.com/projects/swtswing/index.html

Daniel

Clemens Eisserer wrote:
Hmm - cause I am working on such a port and first visible results are there
;-)
However the company I am employed at is still thinking howto release it...
Re: Would be a SWING port of SWT sucessful? [message #453963 is a reply to message #453780] Thu, 14 April 2005 22:44 Go to previous message
No real name is currently offline No real nameFriend
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Why go back to failed crap?
I really hated the quality of implementation of Swing.
I spent months of work converting huge AWT system
into Swing and ended up abandoning the work due
to quality of Swing.

What we need is Swing APIs implemented in the same
way as SWT implemented. In this way, we get quality
GUI development environment. Note that this problem
rises because of that systems on MS platforms far ahead
of other platforms. Unless you have matching quality,
your Java program will be never be attractive to average
Windows users. Note that I am saying this from my
experience!


"Clemens Eisserer" <ceisserer@utanet.at> wrote in message
news:2d17fe225cde1d0052a30033b857290a$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Do you think a SWING port of SWT would be useful, e.g. for
> Applet-Distribution or Webstart where someone does not want to include
> native libs?
>
> What do you think?
>
> lg Clemens
>
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