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[ANN] STRECL Source available [message #3943] Wed, 18 June 2003 13:11 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: mail.phase.ws

The STRECL project from http://www.strecl.com is now open-source. The source
is available via sourceforge at http://www.sourceforge.com/projects/strecl .
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #3948 is a reply to message #3943] Wed, 18 June 2003 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: burner.zclipse.org

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:11:39 -0600, Brandon Goodin wrote:

> The STRECL project from http://www.strecl.com is now open-source. The
> source is available via sourceforge at
> http://www.sourceforge.com/projects/strecl .

Cool. I'll be interested to check out the source.

On the sourceforge page, it suggests you are licensing as GPL. There's
been a lot of controversy as to whether licensing eclipse as GPL is valid.
It could be argued that by licensing your plugin under a agreement that
can't be fulfilled (because the CPL and GPL are not compatible), the
license would be invalid and you'd be giving up the rights to it.

Please consider using LGPL or, even better, CPL.

Thanks for all the good work!

mike
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #3954 is a reply to message #3948] Wed, 18 June 2003 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mail.phase.ws

Thanks,

I'm not a licensing expert. So, I appreciate the insight.

Brandon Goodin

"Michael R Head" <burner@zclipse.org> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.06.18.17.28.52.695943@zclipse.org...
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:11:39 -0600, Brandon Goodin wrote:
>
> > The STRECL project from http://www.strecl.com is now open-source. The
> > source is available via sourceforge at
> > http://www.sourceforge.com/projects/strecl .
>
> Cool. I'll be interested to check out the source.
>
> On the sourceforge page, it suggests you are licensing as GPL. There's
> been a lot of controversy as to whether licensing eclipse as GPL is valid.
> It could be argued that by licensing your plugin under a agreement that
> can't be fulfilled (because the CPL and GPL are not compatible), the
> license would be invalid and you'd be giving up the rights to it.
>
> Please consider using LGPL or, even better, CPL.
>
> Thanks for all the good work!
>
> mike
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #4007 is a reply to message #3943] Wed, 18 June 2003 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the source code? I could not found any file via "CVS Repository"
or "Latest File Releases" at sourceforge.

"Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws> д
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #4185 is a reply to message #4007] Thu, 19 June 2003 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mail.phase.ws

You should be able to follow the CVS instructions on sourceforge and do a
checkout via a cvs client.

"Eric Suen" <eric_suen_cn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcr9k3$ugq$1@rogue.oti.com...
> Where is the source code? I could not found any file via "CVS Repository"
> or "Latest File Releases" at sourceforge.
>
> "Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws> д
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #4255 is a reply to message #4185] Thu, 19 June 2003 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: mail.phase.ws

hmm? I tried to access the cvs via anonymous pserver and it failed. The ssh
admin access works fine. I put a support request into sourceforge. Hopefully
it will be fixed soon. BTW I have seen this happen a couple other times on
sourceforge.

"Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws> wrote in message
news:bcslbc$sv$1@rogue.oti.com...
> You should be able to follow the CVS instructions on sourceforge and do a
> checkout via a cvs client.
>
> "Eric Suen" <eric_suen_cn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bcr9k3$ugq$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > Where is the source code? I could not found any file via "CVS
Repository"
> > or "Latest File Releases" at sourceforge.
> >
> > "Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws> д
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #4535 is a reply to message #4255] Thu, 19 June 2003 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: glongman.intelligentworks.nospam.com

Sourceforge is having big problems with anonymous pserver access. They are
limiting connections and do not expect a complete
fix until August!

http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=2352& ;group_id=1

look for:

"( 2003-06-12 04:51:38 - Project CVS Services ) The SourceForge.net team
is aware of the continued performance issues afflicting project CVS
services. While a portion......"

sf anonymous pserver works best for me at around 5:30am EST

Geoff

"Brandon Goodin" <mail@phase.ws> wrote in message
news:bcsmcq$20e$1@rogue.oti.com...
> hmm? I tried to access the cvs via anonymous pserver and it failed. The
ssh
> admin access works fine. I put a support request into sourceforge.
Hopefully
> it will be fixed soon. BTW I have seen this happen a couple other times on
> sourceforge.
>
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #5463 is a reply to message #3948] Sun, 29 June 2003 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: robert.wittams.com

Michael R Head wrote:
> On the sourceforge page, it suggests you are licensing as GPL. There's
> been a lot of controversy as to whether licensing eclipse as GPL is valid.
> It could be argued that by licensing your plugin under a agreement that
> can't be fulfilled (because the CPL and GPL are not compatible), the
> license would be invalid and you'd be giving up the rights to it.
>
> Please consider using LGPL or, even better, CPL.
>
> Thanks for all the good work!
>
> mike

In fact if the licensing combination was found to be invalid it would mean
the code was just recieved under copyright, ie, you have no right to
distribute it but you could use and modify it privately.

It is possible to include an exception to the GPL with your code.
eg add this notice

As a special exception, you have permission to link this program
with the SWT library, Eclipse, and Eclipse Plugins, and
distribute executables, as long as you follow the requirements of
the GNU GPL in regard to all of the software in the executable
aside from SWT, Eclipse, and Eclipse Plugins.

With GPL'ed code reliant on non GPL compatible code there is an argument
that there is an implicit exception granted by the authors knowledge that
to use the code it must be linked with that library - this is a shaky
argument at best.

It would likely be best and easiest to dual licence CPL/LGPL . This would
allow use of the code in GPL'ed projects too, which the CPL doesn't, due to
the patent licence requirements.

Rob
Re: [ANN] STRECL Source available [message #5469 is a reply to message #5463] Mon, 30 June 2003 00:35 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: burner.zclipse.org

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:08:44 +0100, Robert Wittams wrote:


>
> In fact if the licensing combination was found to be invalid it would mean
> the code was just recieved under copyright, ie, you have no right to
> distribute it but you could use and modify it privately.

Thanks for clearing this up for me.

mike

>
>
> Rob
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