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confused about RCP product deployment [message #444756] Mon, 20 February 2006 09:36 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi,

Our RCP product has dependencies to several Eclipse plugins which are
defined in several Eclipse features. These are

- all plugins from the org.eclipse.rcp feature
- some (but not all!) plugins from the org.eclipse.platform feature
(e.g.: we don't include team, debug, compatibility etc.
related plugins)
- org.eclipse.pde.runtime plugin from the org.eclipse.pde feature
(because of the Error log view.)

We want our users to be able to update the Eclipse plugins using the update
sites which are defined in the feature manifests. But because we don't
deliver all the plugins that belong to above mentioned features, we couldn't
decide whether to include o.e.platform and o.e.pde features.

We also think about an alternative: to make up an fake feature to embrace
all above mentioned plugins and provide the updates from our own update
site. Of course, as a developer I don't know about the legal issues
concerning this solution Our legal dep. will be reviewing this idea, but a
quick tip from you will be appreciated.

And now here goes my questions:

1. Is there a recommended way about this problem? When to include a
(partially required) feature and how?

2. Has anyone faced such problems, how did you solve it?

3. Is there plan to move the Error Log view into the eclipse RCP
feature?

Thanks in advance,

Yetkin
Re: confused about RCP product deployment [message #444759 is a reply to message #444756] Mon, 20 February 2006 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Yetkin Oezkucur wrote:
<snip>
> And now here goes my questions:
>
> 1. Is there a recommended way about this problem? When to include a
> (partially required) feature and how?
>
Create a new feature to hold them. You can't include a partially
required feature. Its either all there or its broken.

> 2. Has anyone faced such problems, how did you solve it?
>
We created a new feature to hold the set of plugins we wanted. The only
downside is that you must now manage the feature. This is good if you
want to control which updates the user sees but bad if you just want to
get whichever updates are available when they become available.

> 3. Is there plan to move the Error Log view into the eclipse RCP
> feature?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Yetkin Özkucur| Software Engineer
> Yetkin.Oezkucur@asg.com
>
> ASG | asg.com
> Straßburger Str. 34
> D-09120 Chemnitz, Germany
>
> Tel: +49 371 52 302-39
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Re: confused about RCP product deployment [message #444764 is a reply to message #444759] Mon, 20 February 2006 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Thanks for your quick response. Actually we were also thinking about such
kind of a solution. I hope it is not illegal (regarding legal documents,
licenses etc,) to pack Eclipse plugins in a non-Eclipse feature.

Yetkin

"Peter Manahan" <manahan@NOSPAM.ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:dtcml2$eec$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> Yetkin Oezkucur wrote:
> <snip>
> > And now here goes my questions:
> >
> > 1. Is there a recommended way about this problem? When to include a
> > (partially required) feature and how?
> >
> Create a new feature to hold them. You can't include a partially
> required feature. Its either all there or its broken.
>
> > 2. Has anyone faced such problems, how did you solve it?
> >
> We created a new feature to hold the set of plugins we wanted. The only
> downside is that you must now manage the feature. This is good if you
> want to control which updates the user sees but bad if you just want to
> get whichever updates are available when they become available.
>
> > 3. Is there plan to move the Error Log view into the eclipse RCP
> > feature?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Yetkin
Re: confused about RCP product deployment [message #445004 is a reply to message #444764] Sat, 25 February 2006 15:10 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
I don't think it is, but you might want to check with the foundation.

Yetkin Oezkucur wrote:
> Thanks for your quick response. Actually we were also thinking about such
> kind of a solution. I hope it is not illegal (regarding legal documents,
> licenses etc,) to pack Eclipse plugins in a non-Eclipse feature.
>
> Yetkin
>
> "Peter Manahan" <manahan@NOSPAM.ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
> news:dtcml2$eec$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> Yetkin Oezkucur wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> And now here goes my questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Is there a recommended way about this problem? When to include a
>>> (partially required) feature and how?
>>>
>> Create a new feature to hold them. You can't include a partially
>> required feature. Its either all there or its broken.
>>
>>> 2. Has anyone faced such problems, how did you solve it?
>>>
>> We created a new feature to hold the set of plugins we wanted. The only
>> downside is that you must now manage the feature. This is good if you
>> want to control which updates the user sees but bad if you just want to
>> get whichever updates are available when they become available.
>>
>>> 3. Is there plan to move the Error Log view into the eclipse RCP
>>> feature?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Yetkin Özkucur| Software Engineer
>>> Yetkin.Oezkucur@asg.com
>>>
>>> ASG | asg.com
>>> Straßburger Str. 34
>>> D-09120 Chemnitz, Germany
>>>
>>> Tel: +49 371 52 302-39
>>> Fax: +49 371 52 302-11
>>>
>>> The premier source for understanding,
>>> managing, and extending existing systems
>>>
>>>
>
>
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