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JFace & VE + Some Feedback [message #43285] Tue, 22 June 2004 21:05 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: goulah1971.yahoo.com

Hello People

I'm prepping for a new JAVA development in which we will be using Eclipse as
the IDE and pure-SWT / Eclipse-RCP as the deployment platform.

The team has spent the last few months producing technology-protypes of the
apps that we indend to create using Eclipse 2.1, with much of the GUI
design performed using the Jigloo designer.

We have made the decision to postpone development until 3.0 is released and
to use some of the new features that are supported, and we probably will
switch across to VE as the GUI design tool when 1.0 is released with SWT
support (most of the team come from an M$ (pre & post .NET) app background
and are really impressed with both the Eclipse IDE and VE).

As part of teh development we will be using JFace componentry (as well as
building a few custom components of our own) and it would ideal to be able
to integrate these into VE st. they can be directly used as part of the GUI
design.

Currently, we mock-up in VE/Jigloo, and then replace pure-SWT componentry
with JFace components - but of course we lose the ability to perform GUI
maintenance/enhancement through the GUI editor.

Question : Is it possible to create a JFace palette & integrate JFace into
VE (if so could someone point to some resources which might help).

Thanks
Stuart
Re: JFace & VE + Some Feedback [message #43421 is a reply to message #43285] Wed, 23 June 2004 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: myersj.nospam.us.ibm.com

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the kind words about the VE. Unfortunately adding support
for JFace to the VE is a non-trivial task. The source code patterns
used by JFace are quite different from those used in base SWT
(getControl() methods, etc). Adding JFace components to the palette
would be pretty easy. The modeling of the component relationships and
the parsing and generating the source code that would be tricky. We're
planning on adding JFace support in later (post 1.0) versions of VE, but
don't have any information about when that will be available.

Sorry that I don't have a more encouraging answer to your question...

- Jeff


Stuart Hudson wrote:

> Hello People
>
<snip>
>
> Question : Is it possible to create a JFace palette & integrate JFace into
> VE (if so could someone point to some resources which might help).
>
> Thanks
> Stuart
>
>
>
Re: JFace & VE + Some Feedback [message #43749 is a reply to message #43421] Wed, 23 June 2004 19:45 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: goulah1971.yahoo.com

Thanks for the prompt reply Jeff.

I'll look out for your plans to include JFace support post 1.0 (perhaps
myself or one of the other guys will sign up to help out). In the meantime
we'll implement some process/coding standards and then plan to look at
refactoring later.

Good luck with the 1.0 release.

Stu


"Jeff Myers" <myersj@nospam.us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:cbbveb$psp$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi Stuart,
>
> Thanks for the kind words about the VE. Unfortunately adding support
> for JFace to the VE is a non-trivial task. The source code patterns
> used by JFace are quite different from those used in base SWT
> (getControl() methods, etc). Adding JFace components to the palette
> would be pretty easy. The modeling of the component relationships and
> the parsing and generating the source code that would be tricky. We're
> planning on adding JFace support in later (post 1.0) versions of VE, but
> don't have any information about when that will be available.
>
> Sorry that I don't have a more encouraging answer to your question...
>
> - Jeff
>
>
> Stuart Hudson wrote:
>
> > Hello People
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Question : Is it possible to create a JFace palette & integrate JFace
into
> > VE (if so could someone point to some resources which might help).
> >
> > Thanks
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
Re: JFace & VE + Some Feedback [message #592479 is a reply to message #43285] Wed, 23 June 2004 09:09 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the kind words about the VE. Unfortunately adding support
for JFace to the VE is a non-trivial task. The source code patterns
used by JFace are quite different from those used in base SWT
(getControl() methods, etc). Adding JFace components to the palette
would be pretty easy. The modeling of the component relationships and
the parsing and generating the source code that would be tricky. We're
planning on adding JFace support in later (post 1.0) versions of VE, but
don't have any information about when that will be available.

Sorry that I don't have a more encouraging answer to your question...

- Jeff


Stuart Hudson wrote:

> Hello People
>
<snip>
>
> Question : Is it possible to create a JFace palette & integrate JFace into
> VE (if so could someone point to some resources which might help).
>
> Thanks
> Stuart
>
>
>
Re: JFace & VE + Some Feedback [message #592602 is a reply to message #43421] Wed, 23 June 2004 19:45 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Thanks for the prompt reply Jeff.

I'll look out for your plans to include JFace support post 1.0 (perhaps
myself or one of the other guys will sign up to help out). In the meantime
we'll implement some process/coding standards and then plan to look at
refactoring later.

Good luck with the 1.0 release.

Stu


"Jeff Myers" <myersj@nospam.us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:cbbveb$psp$1@eclipse.org...
> Hi Stuart,
>
> Thanks for the kind words about the VE. Unfortunately adding support
> for JFace to the VE is a non-trivial task. The source code patterns
> used by JFace are quite different from those used in base SWT
> (getControl() methods, etc). Adding JFace components to the palette
> would be pretty easy. The modeling of the component relationships and
> the parsing and generating the source code that would be tricky. We're
> planning on adding JFace support in later (post 1.0) versions of VE, but
> don't have any information about when that will be available.
>
> Sorry that I don't have a more encouraging answer to your question...
>
> - Jeff
>
>
> Stuart Hudson wrote:
>
> > Hello People
> >
> <snip>
> >
> > Question : Is it possible to create a JFace palette & integrate JFace
into
> > VE (if so could someone point to some resources which might help).
> >
> > Thanks
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
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