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Buckminster & PDE [message #385777] Mon, 01 June 2009 09:03 Go to next message
Alex Chatziparaskewas is currently offline Alex ChatziparaskewasFriend
Messages: 52
Registered: July 2009
Member
Hi

Just a quick question to broaden my knowledge about buckminster. And
please do not understand me wrong. After years of PDE digging and trying
to explain to other how headless PDE (and Ant) works and seeing developers
struggling with the complexity and its 'knottyness', I would always now
recommend to go with buckminster. Simply because PDE does not seem to get
any easier, while buckminster does get better and better ...

However, back to my question. My understanding of buckminster was always
that it something like a 'front-end' to (parts of) other build tools, in
particular the PDE build. Lately though, I am surprised about some of the
issues I am running into. E.g. exporting features from a workspace, I
would have just assumed that it is just the 'headless' interface to PDE's
feature export dialog. However, this does not seem to be the case. While
the PDE export still works nicely on my stuff, the buckminster build does
not. So my question(s): At which level does buckmninster hook in? Does it
're-implement' some of the PDE features?

Thanks & Regards
Alex
Re: Buckminster & PDE [message #385778 is a reply to message #385777] Mon, 01 June 2009 09:52 Go to previous message
Thomas Hallgren is currently offline Thomas HallgrenFriend
Messages: 3240
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Alex,
Keep in mind that neither PDE build, nor the P2 publisher has been released yet. What's available are bleeding edge
release candidates. Buckminster consumes that technology so some lag is to be expected. We try to reuse as much as
possible of the PDE build code but time constraints, the need to work around bugs, and the need to do everything
headlessly, forced us to write some code in parallel.

We have every intention of unifying our efforts with PDE build as soon as time permits. One of our objectives moving
forward is to increase our involvement in PDE build and help driving it forward.

Kind Regards,
Thomas Hallgren



Alex Chatziparaskewas wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just a quick question to broaden my knowledge about buckminster. And
> please do not understand me wrong. After years of PDE digging and trying
> to explain to other how headless PDE (and Ant) works and seeing
> developers struggling with the complexity and its 'knottyness', I would
> always now recommend to go with buckminster. Simply because PDE does not
> seem to get any easier, while buckminster does get better and better ...
>
> However, back to my question. My understanding of buckminster was always
> that it something like a 'front-end' to (parts of) other build tools, in
> particular the PDE build. Lately though, I am surprised about some of
> the issues I am running into. E.g. exporting features from a workspace,
> I would have just assumed that it is just the 'headless' interface to
> PDE's feature export dialog. However, this does not seem to be the case.
> While the PDE export still works nicely on my stuff, the buckminster
> build does not. So my question(s): At which level does buckmninster hook
> in? Does it 're-implement' some of the PDE features?
> Thanks & Regards
> Alex
>
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