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| [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #38590] |
Tue, 17 December 2002 06:09  |
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Originally posted by: jeff_mcaffer.oti.com
Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
and at conferences in the near future.
See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #38802 is a reply to message #38590] |
Tue, 17 December 2002 19:37  |
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Originally posted by: vranganath.cox.net
Jeff McAffer wrote:
>Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
>proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
>there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
>volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
>research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
>community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
>results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
>and at conferences in the near future.
>
>See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
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Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
implications?
At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
and beyond.
Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
(I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
--
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #38996 is a reply to message #38802] |
Thu, 19 December 2002 19:41 |
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Originally posted by: brian_barry.oti.com
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath wrote:
> Jeff McAffer wrote:
> >Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
> >proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
> >there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
> >volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
> >research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
> >community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
> >results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
> >and at conferences in the near future.
> >
> >See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
> >
> >
> >
> Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
> Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
> receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
> IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
> research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
> to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
> any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
> chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
> that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
> tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
> out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
> implications?
> At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
> above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
> the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
> research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
> the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
> tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
> and beyond.
> Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
> are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
> IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
> (I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
> --
> Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #39029 is a reply to message #38802] |
Thu, 19 December 2002 19:54 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: brian_barry.oti.com
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath wrote:
> Jeff McAffer wrote:
> >Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
> >proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
> >there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
> >volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
> >research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
> >community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
> >results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
> >and at conferences in the near future.
> >
> >See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
> >
> >
> >
> Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
> Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
> receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
> IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
> research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
> to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
> any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
> chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
> that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
> tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
> out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
> implications?
> At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
> above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
> the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
> research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
> the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
> tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
> and beyond.
> Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
> are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
> IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
> (I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
> --
> Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
First a disclaimer. Although we posted some information on the web site
and in the newsgroups as a service to those in the Eclipse Community who
might want to apply for these grants, this was an IBM-sponsored
competition. eclipse.org had no formal role in the Innovation Grant
Program, although we are obviously pleased to see the overwhelming
interest shown in Eclipse by researchers and educators. Any member of
eclipse.org, like IBM, is free to promote the technology as they see fit,
as long as they respect Eclipse's open source culture. So I would
encourage you to pass on any particular feedback directly to the folks at
IBM, who I know would be interested.
Second, speaking now as another interested observer, I'm not sure your
characterization that only "research groups involved with infrastructure
framework" were funded is accurate; in fact I'm pretty sure it's not
accurate. Trouble is you can't tell much from titles<grin>. However,
we're planning to devote more web space in the Community area to research
and educational activities. Hopefully these and other groups doing
research with Eclipse will use that space to provide more complete
descriptions of what they are doing in the months ahead. You can be sure
we will be encouraging them to do this.
Brian Barry
Eclipse Technology PMC Lead
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #587787 is a reply to message #38590] |
Tue, 17 December 2002 19:37 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: vranganath.cox.net
Jeff McAffer wrote:
>Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
>proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
>there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
>volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
>research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
>community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
>results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
>and at conferences in the near future.
>
>See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
>
>
>
Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
implications?
At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
and beyond.
Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
(I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
--
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #587842 is a reply to message #38802] |
Thu, 19 December 2002 19:41 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: brian_barry.oti.com
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath wrote:
> Jeff McAffer wrote:
> >Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
> >proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
> >there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
> >volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
> >research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
> >community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
> >results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
> >and at conferences in the near future.
> >
> >See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
> >
> >
> >
> Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
> Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
> receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
> IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
> research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
> to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
> any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
> chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
> that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
> tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
> out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
> implications?
> At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
> above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
> the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
> research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
> the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
> tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
> and beyond.
> Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
> are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
> IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
> (I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
> --
> Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
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| Re: [ANN] Eclipse Innovation Grant results [message #587849 is a reply to message #38802] |
Thu, 19 December 2002 19:54 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: brian_barry.oti.com
Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath wrote:
> Jeff McAffer wrote:
> >Yesterday IBM announced the results of the Eclipse Innovation Grant call for
> >proposals. There were some 190 proposals from all over the world. Originally
> >there were to be 20-30 grants of at most US$30,000. Due to the overwhelming
> >volume and quality of the responses, these amounts were doubled! Now, 49
> >research groups will share US$1.2 million for Eclipse-based research,
> >community and education efforts in 2003. We look forward to seeing the
> >results of their work show up on eclipse.org, in other open source forums
> >and at conferences in the near future.
> >
> >See http://ibm.com/university/eclipseinnovation for more details.
> >
> >
> >
> Disclaimer: This is not a flame mail.
> Well, out of curiousity, can IBM release the titles of all the proposals
> receieved for this call? Just to understand how might have the panel at
> IBM chosen the recepients. Because, from the look of it, it seems
> research groups involved with infrastructure framework have been funded
> to recast their work in eclipse, which is nice. However, I do not see
> any research groups involved with tools that are complete with GUI being
> chosen to recast their tools into eclipse. So, I am curious to know
> that does IBM is confident that eclipse is so good that eventually such
> tools will migrate to eclipse? Or is it that the panel was ignorant or
> out of time to look into these tools to realize their worth and
> implications?
> At this point, it may seem as a flame mail, but the reason I ask the
> above question is to educate myself about selection criterion. Is it
> the name of the university, the people who submitted the proposal, the
> research group from which the proposal stemed, or truely the content of
> the proposal? If it is the last, I am sure there were proposals with
> tools which had the features proposed in some of the granted proposals
> and beyond.
> Anyways, I am not whining about the selections. Sure, the recepients
> are good researchers. However, it would be nice if companies such as
> IBM supported real worthy projects at small or less known universities.
> (I guess late nites have gotten to me :-)
> --
> Venkatesh Prasad Ranganath,
First a disclaimer. Although we posted some information on the web site
and in the newsgroups as a service to those in the Eclipse Community who
might want to apply for these grants, this was an IBM-sponsored
competition. eclipse.org had no formal role in the Innovation Grant
Program, although we are obviously pleased to see the overwhelming
interest shown in Eclipse by researchers and educators. Any member of
eclipse.org, like IBM, is free to promote the technology as they see fit,
as long as they respect Eclipse's open source culture. So I would
encourage you to pass on any particular feedback directly to the folks at
IBM, who I know would be interested.
Second, speaking now as another interested observer, I'm not sure your
characterization that only "research groups involved with infrastructure
framework" were funded is accurate; in fact I'm pretty sure it's not
accurate. Trouble is you can't tell much from titles<grin>. However,
we're planning to devote more web space in the Community area to research
and educational activities. Hopefully these and other groups doing
research with Eclipse will use that space to provide more complete
descriptions of what they are doing in the months ahead. You can be sure
we will be encouraging them to do this.
Brian Barry
Eclipse Technology PMC Lead
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