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How can I uninstall [message #35979] Mon, 25 November 2002 19:08 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: dovle.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl

Hello all,
Might be a silly question but I have no idea how to uninstall plugins!!!
Pls help
dovle
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36015 is a reply to message #35979] Mon, 25 November 2002 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: markus.nospam.com

dovle wrote:
> Hello all,
> Might be a silly question but I have no idea how to uninstall plugins!!!
> Pls help
> dovle

1. shutdown eclipse
2. delete <drive:>\eclipse\plugins\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
3. restart eclipse

-- markus
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36117 is a reply to message #36015] Tue, 26 November 2002 16:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dovle.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl

Markus wrote:

> dovle wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > Might be a silly question but I have no idea how to uninstall plugins!!!
> > Pls help
> > dovle

> 1. shutdown eclipse
> 2. delete <drive:>\\\\eclipse\\\\plugins\\\\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
> 3. restart eclipse

I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?

And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
this really sucks.

They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
plugins... dhaaa...

dovle
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36151 is a reply to message #36117] Tue, 26 November 2002 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: laender.nlr.nl

Yes, I agree with you.
A few months ago I put this issue in the tools discussion group, but I got
no replies.
I think, the update manager should contain functionality to explicitly
remove features (or configurations). Otherwise the plug-in/feature directory
will contain a lot of versions that are no longer used; a waste of disk
space. And manually deleting is error-prone.

Fran
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36254 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 14:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: david_whiteman.oti.com

"dovle" <dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > 1. shutdown eclipse
> > 2. delete <drive:>\\\\eclipse\\\\plugins\\\\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
> > 3. restart eclipse
>
> I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
> have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?
>
> And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
> installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
> this really sucks.
>
> They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
> plugins... dhaaa...

The other problem with simply removing the plugins and features is that your
feature might have placed files outside the feature/plugin directory
structure. For instance, installing a WSDD feature results in a lot of
files in the wsdd5.0/runtimes directory tree that could not easily be
cleaned up without an "uninstall".

Unfortunately, this discussion is on the wrong newsgroup to get proper
visibility. eclipse.technology is for specific technology projects based on
Eclipse. eclipse.tools is better for discussion of the core functionality.
I agree that the newsgroup names are confusing.

David
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36288 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christophe Elek is currently offline Christophe ElekFriend
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dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl (dovle) wrote in news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com:

> And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
> installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
> this really sucks.
>
> They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
> plugins... dhaaa...

Hi dovle, the interface is present but disabled for no. We need as David
said to 1) ensure we call back any uninstaller that would have had
installed other file than plugin files 2) work on shared plugin install
(what if you delete a plugin in a share install )? 3) mark the plugin we
did not install (you should not be able to remove a plugin installed by a
native installer for instance)

We will also add to that security (what if we partially delete a plugin)
and extensive testing (you would not be very happy if after deleting a
plugin, eclipse wouldn't restart)

Disabling is a good first step where the plugins/feature are not part of
the launch path but still present on the file system. So deleting disabled
plugins should give you the exact same result as leaving them on the file
system.

--
Christophe Elek
Eclipse Project
http://www.eclipse.org
Re: How can I uninstall [message #36321 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 22:02 Go to previous message
Christophe Elek is currently offline Christophe ElekFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl (dovle) wrote in news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com:

> I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
> have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?

Just thought about something else.
You can install the plugins/features from the net in a different directory.
So you can delete the directory when you do not need the plugins/feature

--
Christophe Elek
Eclipse Project
http://www.eclipse.org
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586719 is a reply to message #35979] Mon, 25 November 2002 19:13 Go to previous message
Markus is currently offline MarkusFriend
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Member
dovle wrote:
> Hello all,
> Might be a silly question but I have no idea how to uninstall plugins!!!
> Pls help
> dovle

1. shutdown eclipse
2. delete <drive:>\eclipse\plugins\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
3. restart eclipse

-- markus
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586764 is a reply to message #36015] Tue, 26 November 2002 16:08 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dovle.kbs.twi.tudelft.nl

Markus wrote:

> dovle wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > Might be a silly question but I have no idea how to uninstall plugins!!!
> > Pls help
> > dovle

> 1. shutdown eclipse
> 2. delete <drive:>\\\\eclipse\\\\plugins\\\\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
> 3. restart eclipse

I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?

And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
this really sucks.

They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
plugins... dhaaa...

dovle
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586776 is a reply to message #36117] Tue, 26 November 2002 16:51 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: laender.nlr.nl

Yes, I agree with you.
A few months ago I put this issue in the tools discussion group, but I got
no replies.
I think, the update manager should contain functionality to explicitly
remove features (or configurations). Otherwise the plug-in/feature directory
will contain a lot of versions that are no longer used; a waste of disk
space. And manually deleting is error-prone.

Fran
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586817 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 14:47 Go to previous message
David Whiteman is currently offline David WhitemanFriend
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"dovle" <dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl> wrote in message
news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > 1. shutdown eclipse
> > 2. delete <drive:>\\\\eclipse\\\\plugins\\\\<plugin.to.be.deleted>
> > 3. restart eclipse
>
> I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
> have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?
>
> And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
> installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
> this really sucks.
>
> They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
> plugins... dhaaa...

The other problem with simply removing the plugins and features is that your
feature might have placed files outside the feature/plugin directory
structure. For instance, installing a WSDD feature results in a lot of
files in the wsdd5.0/runtimes directory tree that could not easily be
cleaned up without an "uninstall".

Unfortunately, this discussion is on the wrong newsgroup to get proper
visibility. eclipse.technology is for specific technology projects based on
Eclipse. eclipse.tools is better for discussion of the core functionality.
I agree that the newsgroup names are confusing.

David
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586828 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 22:00 Go to previous message
Christophe Elek is currently offline Christophe ElekFriend
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009
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dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl (dovle) wrote in news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com:

> And I also have to delete the features, if there are some added. But if
> installing from the net, I have no idea of the package name and so on...
> this really sucks.
>
> They should try to implement a simple interface for uninstalling
> plugins... dhaaa...

Hi dovle, the interface is present but disabled for no. We need as David
said to 1) ensure we call back any uninstaller that would have had
installed other file than plugin files 2) work on shared plugin install
(what if you delete a plugin in a share install )? 3) mark the plugin we
did not install (you should not be able to remove a plugin installed by a
native installer for instance)

We will also add to that security (what if we partially delete a plugin)
and extensive testing (you would not be very happy if after deleting a
plugin, eclipse wouldn't restart)

Disabling is a good first step where the plugins/feature are not part of
the launch path but still present on the file system. So deleting disabled
plugins should give you the exact same result as leaving them on the file
system.

--
Christophe Elek
Eclipse Project
http://www.eclipse.org
Re: How can I uninstall [message #586840 is a reply to message #36117] Wed, 27 November 2002 22:02 Go to previous message
Christophe Elek is currently offline Christophe ElekFriend
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009
Member
dovle@kbs.twi.tudelft.nl (dovle) wrote in news:as06a6$d2l$1@rogue.oti.com:

> I was thinking there is a proper way to do it!!! C\\\'mon, eclipse should
> have a special mechanism to do that. It is a grown up application, no?

Just thought about something else.
You can install the plugins/features from the net in a different directory.
So you can delete the directory when you do not need the plugins/feature

--
Christophe Elek
Eclipse Project
http://www.eclipse.org
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