| Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #34111] |
Wed, 13 November 2002 20:57  |
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Originally posted by: groberts.seabase.com
I recently read Todd Williams white paper entitled The Case for Using
Eclipse Technology in General Purpose Applications.
http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
This idea of using an eclipse enabled work station to launch applications
is something I have been thinking of myself so let me propose this:
Create a form of eclipse that is configured to this end and make it
generally available. I could use such a thing for a project that I am
facing now and could have used it in the past.
Is there any other interest?
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #34279 is a reply to message #34145] |
Thu, 14 November 2002 04:35  |
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Originally posted by: geoffry_roberts.fastmail.fm
I would like to see a line of source code that builds to this plain
vanilla, configuration of eclipse.
Because I still spinning up on the eclipse, I can't say what kind of
effort it would take to create this plain vanilla framework.
The challenges document identifies two parts to the task. The second of
these sounds like the easiest.
From the challenges document:
>There are two parts to this task, the first is to split out generally useful
>frameworks like JFace and JFace Text into their own plugin the second is to
>provide a stripped down workbench that can be the foundation for products
that >are not IDE's.
Mike Evans wrote:
> Absolutely, you'll find this is a recurrent thread in this forum.
> So much so that you'll find it in the longer term Eclipse roadmap - look for
> 'Make Eclipse a platform for developing more than an IDE' in
> http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/challenges_2_1.ht ml
> I'd be very interested in what Todd Williams and all at Genuitec have done.
> I have just started trying to emulate what they have achieved. So far have
> had no more time than to reduce the plugin's needed for a runtime.
> Here's a starter (I'm running on RedHat) - a reduced plug-in list tnat at
> least does not cause any errors.
> *** Features:
> org.eclipse.platform (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.linux.gtk (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.linux.gtk.source (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.source (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.sdk.linux.gtk (2.0.1)
> *** Plugin Registry:
> org.apache.lucene (1.2.0)
> org.apache.xerces (4.0.5)
> org.eclipse.core.boot (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.core.resources (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.core.resources.linux (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.core.runtime (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.help (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.help.ui (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.help.webapp (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.linux.gtk (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.linux.gtk.source (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.platform.source (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.sdk.linux.gtk (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.search (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.swt (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.swt.gtk (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.ui (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.update.core (2.0.1)
> org.eclipse.update.core.linux (2.0.0)
> and my test plugin
> Regards,
> Mike E.
> "Geoffry Roberts" <groberts@seabase.com> wrote in message
> news:aqueb6$rf5$1@rogue.oti.com...
> > I recently read Todd Williams white paper entitled The Case for Using
> > Eclipse Technology in General Purpose Applications.
> >
> > http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
> >
> > This idea of using an eclipse enabled work station to launch applications
> > is something I have been thinking of myself so let me propose this:
> >
> > Create a form of eclipse that is configured to this end and make it
> > generally available. I could use such a thing for a project that I am
> > facing now and could have used it in the past.
> >
> > Is there any other interest?
> >
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #34311 is a reply to message #34111] |
Thu, 14 November 2002 10:05 |
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Originally posted by: laender.nlr.nl
Yes, I am very interested.
At the moment I am working on a non-IDE end-user environment of Aerospace
research tools based on Eclipse technology.
So far I created an acceptable situation, without changing the Eclipse
source code, just be removing some IDE-related plug-ins and performing some
branding.
But this is not ideal. It should really be better, to have a non-IDE
platform core available, ready for download from the Eclipse downloads page.
Fran
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #34820 is a reply to message #34111] |
Tue, 19 November 2002 14:16 |
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Originally posted by: sidler.teamup.com
I am very interested in pursuing this. My next project will be an
application for a call center environment (handle calls of different
types, configure work flows, etc.).
Currently, I am exploring how Eclipse could be turned into a general
purpose application framework, how much effort this would require,
how demanding in term of memory such a general purpose framework would
be, etc.
I'll report back once I make some progress. Please do the same.
Gabe
Geoffry Roberts wrote:
> I recently read Todd Williams white paper entitled The Case for Using
> Eclipse Technology in General Purpose Applications.
>
> http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
>
> This idea of using an eclipse enabled work station to launch applications
> is something I have been thinking of myself so let me propose this:
>
> Create a form of eclipse that is configured to this end and make it
> generally available. I could use such a thing for a project that I am
> facing now and could have used it in the past.
>
> Is there any other interest?
>
>
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #37292 is a reply to message #34111] |
Sat, 07 December 2002 14:04 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: ted.stockwell.acxiom.com
"Geoffry Roberts" <groberts@seabase.com> wrote in message
news:aqueb6$rf5$1@rogue.oti.com...
> I recently read Todd Williams white paper entitled The Case for Using
> Eclipse Technology in General Purpose Applications.
>
> http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
>
> This idea of using an eclipse enabled work station to launch applications
> is something I have been thinking of myself so let me propose this:
>
> Create a form of eclipse that is configured to this end and make it
> generally available. I could use such a thing for a project that I am
> facing now and could have used it in the past.
>
> Is there any other interest?
>
Developers that would like the benefits of an Eclipse-like workbench to
develop generic non-IDE applications, and that would rather develop with
Swing instead of SWT/JFace, should take a look at JLense,
http://jlense.sourceforge.net.
ted stockwell
JLense
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #585966 is a reply to message #34111] |
Thu, 14 November 2002 10:05 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: laender.nlr.nl
Yes, I am very interested.
At the moment I am working on a non-IDE end-user environment of Aerospace
research tools based on Eclipse technology.
So far I created an acceptable situation, without changing the Eclipse
source code, just be removing some IDE-related plug-ins and performing some
branding.
But this is not ideal. It should really be better, to have a non-IDE
platform core available, ready for download from the Eclipse downloads page.
Fran
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| Re: Eclipse for General Purpose Applications [message #586202 is a reply to message #34111] |
Tue, 19 November 2002 14:16 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: sidler.teamup.com
I am very interested in pursuing this. My next project will be an
application for a call center environment (handle calls of different
types, configure work flows, etc.).
Currently, I am exploring how Eclipse could be turned into a general
purpose application framework, how much effort this would require,
how demanding in term of memory such a general purpose framework would
be, etc.
I'll report back once I make some progress. Please do the same.
Gabe
Geoffry Roberts wrote:
> I recently read Todd Williams white paper entitled The Case for Using
> Eclipse Technology in General Purpose Applications.
>
> http://www.genuitec.com/products/eclipseapplicationframework .pdf
>
> This idea of using an eclipse enabled work station to launch applications
> is something I have been thinking of myself so let me propose this:
>
> Create a form of eclipse that is configured to this end and make it
> generally available. I could use such a thing for a project that I am
> facing now and could have used it in the past.
>
> Is there any other interest?
>
>
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