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Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1800936]

Thu, 10 January 2019 02:46

meng chao

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After I upgraded the target platform of my product from eclipse4.3 to eclipse4.10, my product can't load all bundles in the plugins folder by default anymore, could you please tell me how to configure eclipse4.10 to load all bundles in the plugins folder by default except using org.eclipse.equinox.simpleconfigurator and bundles.info ?

When using eclipse4.3 as target platform, I can configure eclipse to load all bundles by default through configuring the following codes in config.ini:

osgi.bundles=org.eclipse.equinox.common@2:start,org.eclipse.update.configurator@3:start,org.eclipse.equinox.ds@2:start,org.eclipse.core.runtime@start

but after I upgraded my target platform to eclipse4.10, it doesn't work anymore.

Thanks in advance,
Chao

[Updated on: Thu, 10 January 2019 04:02]

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1800939 is a reply to message #1800936]

Thu, 10 January 2019 03:54

Ed Merks

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I know we had to change this in Oomph's product definition because org.eclipse.equinox.ds has been removed from the platform's feature(s):

      <plugin id="org.apache.felix.scr" autoStart="true" startLevel="2" />

I.e., believe org.apache.felix.scr is the placement for org.eclipse.equinox.ds for starting the services early.

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1800941 is a reply to message #1800939]

Thu, 10 January 2019 06:40

meng chao

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Thanks for your reply Ed,

My RCP doesn't use Oomph, so I tried to replace the org.eclipse.equinox.ds with org.apache.felix.scr in osgi.bundles attribute, but it still launch failed.

BR
Chao

[Updated on: Thu, 10 January 2019 07:32]

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1800960 is a reply to message #1800941]

Thu, 10 January 2019 11:14

meng chao

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Is org.eclipse.equinox.simpleconfigurator / bundles.info the only way to control to load bundles?
(Except writing all bundles into the osgi.bundles attribute)

[Updated on: Thu, 10 January 2019 11:17]

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1800976 is a reply to message #1800960]

Thu, 10 January 2019 14:25

Brian de Alwis

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Generally OSGi only loads bundles that were explicitly specified (i.e., in the osgi.bundles property or via other means like the simpleconfigurator). The update.configurator was a bit of a hack and caused other bad behaviour such as updated or removed bundles being reloaded. The update.configurator behaviour was gutted due to bug 527783.

How are you building and assembling your app?

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1801010 is a reply to message #1800976]

Fri, 11 January 2019 03:31

meng chao

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Thank you very much!

I am not very sure what do you mean about "How are you building and assembling your app?", before we used a customized config.ini and configured it to load all bundles in the plugins folder.
We'll change our system to generate the bundles.info.

BR
Chao

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1801044 is a reply to message #1801010]

Fri, 11 January 2019 15:53

Brian de Alwis

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I meant are you using Maven/Tycho, or PDE Build, or some other technology?

You could also consider using the org.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins bundle, which is like the org.eclipse.update.configurator but installs all bundles found in the dropins/ folder.

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1801105 is a reply to message #1801044]

Mon, 14 January 2019 03:15

meng chao

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Yes, we are using Maven/Tycho; I'll check the org.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins bundle.

Thank you!
Chao

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1801159 is a reply to message #1801105]

Mon, 14 January 2019 17:31

Phil Beauvoir

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Just ran into this problem. See https://github.com/archimatetool/archi/issues/429

Our RCP app uses a custom method of adding plugins to the "plugins" folder and doesn't use P2 for this. Therefore using the simpleconfigurator is not an option.

How easy/hard would it be to use org.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins and the dropins folder? Does our RCP app need to do anything special?

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1801166 is a reply to message #1801159]

Mon, 14 January 2019 18:42

Brian de Alwis

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See the p2 Getting Started guide for details on dropins:

https://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox/p2/Getting_Started#Dropins

But the simple answers are: "easy" and "just include the bundle and mkdir dropins/" :-)

Do realize though that officially the dropins is deprecated and not recommended. And be sure to read the section in the Getting Started guide on debugging dropins.

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1809397 is a reply to message #1801166]

Mon, 15 July 2019 13:05

Jan Pesta

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Is there a way to force upsate/simple configurator to retake bundles from plugins folder?

we are creating RCP application with a maven, and actually time to time we need to patch existing application with new bundle version, but it is now ignored.

Is there a way to instruct any configurator to take new version of bundle?

Thanks

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1809468 is a reply to message #1809397]

Tue, 16 July 2019 14:00

Brian de Alwis

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The recommended way is to use p2 to download and apply changes. You can use p2 programmatically through its API. The p2 FAQ has some pointers.

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Re: Eclipse can't load all bundles after upgraded to eclipse 4.10 [message #1809504 is a reply to message #1801166]

Wed, 17 July 2019 06:34

Jan Pesta

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Hi,

I have looked into that, but as the build features contains exact version of bundles, and If I try to use provinstall with newer version of bundle, it give me error that dependency to old version can not be satisfied, so product could not beresolved.

Actually we are building about 100+ bundles, so it make no sense to install newer feature as it would update much more bundles than the only one, and we have requirement to allow really small patches.

Or is there a way to generate bundle.info property without versions? I remember that with PDE it was possible, but with tycho I didn't found a way to do it.

Thanks in advance.

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