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Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783613] Wed, 14 March 2018 15:12 Go to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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Hello guys, how you're doing?

My team (users: Caio Romão and victor rabelo) is working on some translations of Eclipse into Brazilian Portuguese in the Babel Project.

Specifically in the project called "Eclipse".

I would like to know: how does the process of uploading translations works?

Does the translation go through an approval? If so, when will the translations be available in the IDE version of Eclipse?

Have a great day
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783630 is a reply to message #1783613] Wed, 14 March 2018 17:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Denis Roy is currently offline Denis RoyFriend
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Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Babel. In which format would you be supplying these translations?

We have not received a sizeable contribution of translations (other than those performed using the translation tool, babel.eclipse.org) in a long time. Typically, a bug is filed, an attachment is created and the Babel team sends the translations for review from the Eclipse Legal team. That review is legal only; the actual content is not examined for quality or exactitude.

From there, we would likely reach out to the community to validate the overall translations and if they are valid, they would be imported into Babel. They would be in the next Nightly build and available for download almost immediately.

One question, for anyone to answer: what happens if a contributed translation differs from an existing translation already in our Babel database?

Thank you!


Denis Roy
Eclipse Webmaster -- webmaster@eclipse.org
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783635 is a reply to message #1783630] Wed, 14 March 2018 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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Hello Denis. Thank you for your reply.

About the format of the translations, we are actually working through the translation tool on Babel, babel.eclipse.org and we are working on Brazilian Portuguese.

We started working on these translations in the last Monday, March 12th.

"We have not received a sizeable contribution of translations (other than those performed using the translation tool, babel.eclipse.org) in a long time"

In this case, what do you mean about "sizeable contribution"? How many strings we have to translate to make enough content to deploy it?

About the Nightly Build, is it the next version of Eclipse?

Thanks a lot for your help.


Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783636 is a reply to message #1783635] Wed, 14 March 2018 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caio Romão wrote on Wed, 14 March 2018 13:44
Hello Denis. Thank you for your reply.

About the format of the translations, we are actually working through the translation tool on Babel, babel.eclipse.org and we are working on Brazilian Portuguese.

We started working on these translations in the last Monday, March 12th.


This is great, thank you!

Caio Romão wrote on Wed, 14 March 2018 13:44

"We have not received a sizeable contribution of translations (other than those performed using the translation tool, babel.eclipse.org) in a long time"

In this case, what do you mean about "sizeable contribution"? How many strings we have to translate to make enough content to deploy it?


In the past, we've received a ZIP file of translated .properties files. These require legal review and are time consuming. Translating via Babel.eclipse.org is definitely better.

All translations through babel.eclipse.org is valuable. Please continue :)

Caio Romão wrote on Wed, 14 March 2018 13:44

About the Nightly Build, is it the next version of Eclipse?

Thanks a lot for your help.


We have nightly builds (N*) and Weekly builds (I*) available here:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/babel_language_packs/
Or update site:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/

I will add links to these Nightly builds on our download pages. They were not easy to find!

Thank you!


Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783637 is a reply to message #1783636] Wed, 14 March 2018 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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I see, Denis.

Thanks for another reply. We are really glad about it.

Can you tell us how long it takes to finish the process of deploying our translation?

I know its probably hard for you to tell, but is just for our team to make our schedule and define how much time we will be working on this Project.

We have finished our task of translating the Jaspersoft Studio, but some parts of the software run on Eclipse platform. So, we need to translate these parts on Eclipse too.

All this Project will be used by our clients and we can't release it until Eclipse translation is done.

We know that most part of Eclipse is translated to Brazilian Portuguese, but a lot of details in the components and menus remains in English.

Can you help us, Dennis?
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1783919 is a reply to message #1783636] Tue, 20 March 2018 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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Hello Denis. How are you today?

We're still waiting for your reply, hehehe...

Have a great day.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1784407 is a reply to message #1783637] Tue, 27 March 2018 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caio Romão wrote on Wed, 14 March 2018 14:35
I see, Denis.

Thanks for another reply. We are really glad about it.

Can you tell us how long it takes to finish the process of deploying our translation?


I can't remember how often Kit rebuilds the language packs. When you are done your translations, perhaps we can ask for a release?



Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1784408 is a reply to message #1784407] Tue, 27 March 2018 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Denis Roy is currently offline Denis RoyFriend
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I've asked about a release on the babel-dev mailing list:

https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/babel-dev/


Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1784409 is a reply to message #1784407] Tue, 27 March 2018 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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We are so glad to hear it, Dennis.

We will continue our work in the brazilian translation pack and when we finish, we will notify you, ok?

Thank you and have a great week.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1785757 is a reply to message #1784408] Thu, 19 April 2018 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Dennis, how you're doing in this last weeks?

Our team worked a lot on the Eclipse translation to brazilian portuguese, but we are worried about when the translation project will be finished. So, can we ask you for a "preview" to see the results? Can you compile a version so we can see the affected areas in the application?

Thanks for your attention, have a great day.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786471 is a reply to message #1784409] Thu, 03 May 2018 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Dennis, how's everything?

It's been a long time since we talked...Our team is still waiting for your answer...can you help us with the release?

Have a great day.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786511 is a reply to message #1786471] Fri, 04 May 2018 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Denis Roy is currently offline Denis RoyFriend
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Hello,

As mentioned earlier, you can install a Nightly build to preview your work here:
We have nightly builds (N*) and Weekly builds (I*) available here:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/babel_language_packs/
Or update site:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/

If your translating work is complete, we can produce a new build. Is your work complete?

Thanks!


Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786627 is a reply to message #1786511] Tue, 08 May 2018 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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Hello Denis, good evening, are you ok?

We have not yet finished the brazilian portuguese translation, but we worked really hard on the project.

Unfortunately, we were unable to preview the progress of our translation because we had this error

Can you help us?

Thank you, Caio.

Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786629 is a reply to message #1786627] Tue, 08 May 2018 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our nightly build process seems to be broken. I will look into that.


Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786632 is a reply to message #1786629] Tue, 08 May 2018 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Caio Romão is currently offline Caio RomãoFriend
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Oh, I see.

We will wait for the fix then.

Thank you Denis,
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786699 is a reply to message #1786632] Wed, 09 May 2018 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Our Nightly build process seems to have completed successfully:

This Eclipse update site should work for you:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/N20180509-0200/oxygen/

Or this one:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/I20180508-1500/oxygen/

Neon and Mars (older) build here:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/I20180508-1500/

Denis


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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786718 is a reply to message #1786699] Wed, 09 May 2018 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good afternoon, Denis.

We succeeded using this Build (http://build.eclipse.org/technology/babel/update-site/N20180509-0200/oxygen/) and reinstalling Jaspersoft Studio.

That way, we were able to see the preview of our translation work, which was amazing.

However, there are some menu texts that we still need to translate, and we do not know in which files they belong in the translation projects on Babel.

Could you help us pointing the files?

I attached a .RAR file containing images of the menus that we still need to translate.
  • Attachment: Denis.rar
    (Size: 758.60KB, Downloaded 26 times)
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786720 is a reply to message #1786718] Wed, 09 May 2018 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I *think* you can use Babel Pseudo Translation Packs for finding these:

https://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-babel-pseudo-translations/article.html

I've asked for help on the Babel-dev mailing list:
https://accounts.eclipse.org/mailing-list/babel-dev


Denis Roy
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Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1786725 is a reply to message #1786720] Wed, 09 May 2018 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Caio,

Babel Pseudo Translations are a very useful tool for globalization testing of Eclipse projects.

See the "Babel Pseudo Translations" Eclipse Corner Article (http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-babel-pseudo-translations/article.html) for step-by-step instructions and examples describing what are the Babel Pseudo Translations, where to download them, how to install them, and how to launch Eclipse in Babel Pseudo Translations.

I found some of the strings in your attached images.

Problems
http://babel.eclipse.org/babel/translate.php?project=eclipse&version=4.7&file=org.eclipse.ui.ide/plugin.properties&string=Views.Problem

Check for Updates
http://babel.eclipse.org/babel/translate.php?project=eclipse&version=4.7&file=org.eclipse.equinox.p2.ui.sdk/plugin.properties&string=Update.command

Install New Software...
http://babel.eclipse.org/babel/translate.php?project=eclipse&version=4.7&file=org.eclipse.equinox.p2.ui.sdk/plugin.properties&string=Install.command

Installation Details
http://babel.eclipse.org/babel/translate.php?project=eclipse&version=4.7&file=org.eclipse.equinox.p2.ui.sdk/plugin.properties&string=InstallationDetails.command

Palette
http://babel.eclipse.org/babel/translate.php?project=webtools&version=3.9&file=org.eclipse.jst.jsf.facesconfig.ui/org/eclipse/jst/jsf/facesconfig/ui/pageflow/PageflowMessages.properties&string=Pageflow_Action_ShowPaletteView_Label

Other strings from the Palette view and Outline view may come from your product.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1790075 is a reply to message #1786725] Mon, 04 June 2018 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hello Denis, How have you been?

Me and my team are trying to use the Babel website, but it's inaccessible.

We are using the link below:
https://babel.eclipse.org/babel/login.php

Could you check this please?

Thanks a lot.
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1790190 is a reply to message #1790075] Wed, 06 June 2018 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Babel site is back online.

Denis Roy
Eclipse Webmaster -- webmaster@eclipse.org
Re: Babel Eclipse Project translation process [message #1793530 is a reply to message #1790190] Thu, 09 August 2018 15:23 Go to previous message
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Please see: https://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/babel-dev/msg01320.html

Denis Roy
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