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MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331811]

Tue, 23 September 2008 08:37

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: fakemail.xyz.de

Hello Group

wanted to ask if anyone has ever tried getting a java 6 RCP app to work
with SoyLatte.

I tried it now for some time but I can't get it to run. Though I am not
a Mac user so this might be my ineptness.

Does anyone have experience and succeeded or knows why it could be
impossible to work?

Christian

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331815 is a reply to message #331811]

Tue, 23 September 2008 15:50

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ekkehard.gentz-software.de

Christian schrieb:
> Hello Group
>
> wanted to ask if anyone has ever tried getting a java 6 RCP app to work
> with SoyLatte.
>
> I tried it now for some time but I can't get it to run. Though I am not
> a Mac user so this might be my ineptness.
>
> Does anyone have experience and succeeded or knows why it could be
> impossible to work?
>
> Christian
do you need it on non-64-bit macs ?

if only for 64-bit-macs, then the apple jdk 1.6 works well

ekke

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331822 is a reply to message #331815]

Tue, 23 September 2008 18:20

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: fakemail.xyz.de

ekke schrieb:
> Christian schrieb:
>> Hello Group
>>
>> wanted to ask if anyone has ever tried getting a java 6 RCP app to
>> work with SoyLatte.
>>
>> I tried it now for some time but I can't get it to run. Though I am
>> not a Mac user so this might be my ineptness.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience and succeeded or knows why it could be
>> impossible to work?
>>
>> Christian
> do you need it on non-64-bit macs ?
>
> if only for 64-bit-macs, then the apple jdk 1.6 works well
>
> ekke

I need it to work in 32Bit mode no matter what mac. As RCP uses carbon
which needs 32Bit. I hoped running a 32 Bit jvm was possible also on
64Bit Macs as it is on Windows.

Christian

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331846 is a reply to message #331822]

Wed, 24 September 2008 18:15

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: fakemail.xyz.de

Christian schrieb:
> ekke schrieb:
>> Christian schrieb:
>>> Hello Group
>>>
>>> wanted to ask if anyone has ever tried getting a java 6 RCP app to
>>> work with SoyLatte.
>>>
>>> I tried it now for some time but I can't get it to run. Though I am
>>> not a Mac user so this might be my ineptness.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience and succeeded or knows why it could be
>>> impossible to work?
>>>
>>> Christian
>> do you need it on non-64-bit macs ?
>>
>> if only for 64-bit-macs, then the apple jdk 1.6 works well
>>
>> ekke
>
> I need it to work in 32Bit mode no matter what mac. As RCP uses carbon
> which needs 32Bit. I hoped running a 32 Bit jvm was possible also on
> 64Bit Macs as it is on Windows.
>
> Christian

Come on I can't believe that nobody here uses java6.
Is there no way to get RCP apps to run on Macs anymore without changing
all source to java 5 ?

Christian

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331848 is a reply to message #331846]

Thu, 25 September 2008 03:00

Eclipse User

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:15:16 +0200, Christian <fakemail@xyz.de> wrote:

>Come on I can't believe that nobody here uses java6.
>Is there no way to get RCP apps to run on Macs anymore without changing
>all source to java 5 ?

We've just made a project decision to NOT switch to Java6 because we
couldn't get it to work on OS X. Carbon is not supported on 64bit, the
SWT Cocoa port is not yet ready. I've read in Steve Nortovers blog
that this port is making good progress but that doesn't help anyone
using RCP older than 3.5.

Achim
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Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331849 is a reply to message #331848]

Thu, 25 September 2008 04:26

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ekkehard.gentz-software.de

Achim Lörke schrieb:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:15:16 +0200, Christian <fakemail@xyz.de> wrote:
>
>
>> Come on I can't believe that nobody here uses java6.
>> Is there no way to get RCP apps to run on Macs anymore without changing
>> all source to java 5 ?
>
> We've just made a project decision to NOT switch to Java6 because we
> couldn't get it to work on OS X. Carbon is not supported on 64bit, the
> SWT Cocoa port is not yet ready. I've read in Steve Nortovers blog
> that this port is making good progress but that doesn't help anyone
> using RCP older than 3.5.
>
>
> Achim
same for me... still working with 1.5 until swt supports 64bit
ekke

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331851 is a reply to message #331848]

Thu, 25 September 2008 06:26

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: fakemail.xyz.de

Achim Lörke schrieb:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:15:16 +0200, Christian <fakemail@xyz.de> wrote:
>
>
>> Come on I can't believe that nobody here uses java6.
>> Is there no way to get RCP apps to run on Macs anymore without changing
>> all source to java 5 ?
>
> We've just made a project decision to NOT switch to Java6 because we
> couldn't get it to work on OS X. Carbon is not supported on 64bit, the
> SWT Cocoa port is not yet ready. I've read in Steve Nortovers blog
> that this port is making good progress but that doesn't help anyone
> using RCP older than 3.5.
>
>
> Achim

I think SWT Cocoa should be complete in 6 Months. (End of March 09 I
think said the plan)
And when its complete and stable they will start porting it to 64Bit.
By that time java7 should already be out.

I have been using java 6 till now. As when the project wa started java 6
was really new and expectation was that it would work everywhere before
finishing.
Now it would realy hurt to write the code back to java5 (like some of
the new concurrency classes, isEmpty() in string makes code more
readable ..., diffrent @Override annotation meaning would reduce code
quality as I would have to remove these on interface overrides)

It would just be nice to support Mac with java without making those
sacrifices... sadly that seems not to ba possible as I hoped it would be
with SoyLatte...

Re: MacOSX + RCP + java1.6 with SoyLatte? [message #331852 is a reply to message #331851]

Thu, 25 September 2008 07:00

Eclipse User

Originally posted by: ekkehard.gentz-software.de

Christian schrieb:
> Achim Lörke schrieb:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:15:16 +0200, Christian <fakemail@xyz.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Come on I can't believe that nobody here uses java6.
>>> Is there no way to get RCP apps to run on Macs anymore without
>>> changing all source to java 5 ?
>>
>> We've just made a project decision to NOT switch to Java6 because we
>> couldn't get it to work on OS X. Carbon is not supported on 64bit, the
>> SWT Cocoa port is not yet ready. I've read in Steve Nortovers blog
>> that this port is making good progress but that doesn't help anyone
>> using RCP older than 3.5.
>>
>>
>> Achim
>
> I think SWT Cocoa should be complete in 6 Months. (End of March 09 I
> think said the plan)
> And when its complete and stable they will start porting it to 64Bit.
> By that time java7 should already be out.
>
> I have been using java 6 till now. As when the project wa started java 6
> was really new and expectation was that it would work everywhere before
> finishing.
> Now it would realy hurt to write the code back to java5 (like some of
> the new concurrency classes, isEmpty() in string makes code more
> readable ..., diffrent @Override annotation meaning would reduce code
> quality as I would have to remove these on interface overrides)
>
> It would just be nice to support Mac with java without making those
> sacrifices... sadly that seems not to ba possible as I hoped it would be
> with SoyLatte...
but thats not eclipse fault...

its apple - I really dont understand why JDK 6 only is supported for 64
bit - there are so many 32 bit machines out there. every time there's a
new update of java for OSX (like today) I'm looking for the statement
"...now Java 6 also supports 32 bit..." - but without luck ;-)

I tried one of the first soylatte releases - it works on server-side,
but not with RCP and UI. but I dont know how it runs with latest
releases of soylatte

ekke

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