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Where is it? [message #1730437] Mon, 25 April 2016 19:24 Go to next message
Chuck Pergiel is currently offline Chuck PergielFriend
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Installed Mars. At the end of installation it asks if I want to launch the program and I say 'sure'. Eclipse runs fine. Exit the program.

This morning I want to fire it up again, but where is it? No icon on the desktop, Linux Mint program menu does not have it. Invoking it from a terminal window does nothing.

Finally ran a search which delivered 947 instances of 'eclipse'. After eliminating Archives, Downloads and Pictures and focusing on Binaries, I finally located the program:

HOME/eclipse/cpp-mars/eclipse/eclipse

Fortunately it is named 'eclipse'. Also lucky that it is not in my working directory.



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Re: Where is it? [message #1730454 is a reply to message #1730437] Mon, 25 April 2016 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell BatemanFriend
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On 04/25/2016 01:24 PM, Chuck Pergiel wrote:
> Installed Mars. At the end of installation it asks if I want to launch
> the program and I say 'sure'. Eclipse runs fine. Exit the program.
>
> This morning I want to fire it up again, but where is it? No icon on the
> desktop, Linux Mint program menu does not have it. Invoking it from a
> terminal window does nothing.
>
> Finally ran a search which delivered 947 instances of 'eclipse'. After
> eliminating Archives, Downloads and Pictures and Focusing on Binaries, I
> finally located the program:
>
> HOME/eclipse/cpp-mars/eclipse/eclipse
>
> Fortunately it is named 'eclipse'. Also lucky that it is not in my
> working directory.

http://www.javahotchocolate.com/notes/mint.html#new-launcher
Re: Where is it? [message #1730461 is a reply to message #1730454] Tue, 26 April 2016 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Pergiel is currently offline Chuck PergielFriend
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Thank you for the suggestion (How to install a new launcher in the top panel). It looks like a complicated solution to a simple problem. I suppose it might be worthwhile if you really wanted to be able to access a program from the system Menu. In this case, for me, a desktop icon was sufficient.

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Re: Where is it? [message #1730537 is a reply to message #1730461] Tue, 26 April 2016 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell BatemanFriend
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On 04/25/2016 08:44 PM, Chuck Pergiel wrote:
> Thank you for the suggestion (How to install a new launcher in the top
> panel). It looks like a complicated solution to a simple problem. I
> suppose it might be worthwhile if you really wanted to be able to access
> a program from the system Menu. In this case, for me, a desktop icon was
> sufficient.

Glad you found a solution.

It was meant to help you put something into the panel (the menu across
the top or bottom of your desktop). Yes, it's complicated, but it's
where Linux desktops have gone and just another reason they've never
beaten the pants off Windows and never will (more's the pity).
Re: Where is it? [message #1730593 is a reply to message #1730537] Wed, 27 April 2016 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chuck Pergiel is currently offline Chuck PergielFriend
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OK then. Linux Mint has this thing called 'Software Manager' that will install applications for you. A year or two ago, Eclipse was listed as one of the apps, but with the latest version of Mint, Eclipse has disappeared. Kind of makes sense, I suspect most computer users aren't interested in programming, so if you are going after the mass market it's best to concentrate on stuff that's popular.

'Software Manager' takes care of setting up the menu for the programs it supports, which also makes sense.

Eclipse's installation should do something to enable you to invoke it, but it doesn't even tell you were it is located. The HOME directory is kind of a weird place to put it given that Linux has this whole labyrinth of directories full of secret stuff. On the other hand, you don't have to be super to install it, which is good, since there doesn't seem to be any way to be super AND run 'Archive Manager'.



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Re: Where is it? [message #1730596 is a reply to message #1730593] Wed, 27 April 2016 04:49 Go to previous message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell BatemanFriend
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On 04/26/2016 06:05 PM, Chuck Pergiel wrote:
> OK then. Linux Mint has this thing called 'Software Manager' that will
> install applications for you. A year or two ago, Eclipse was listed as
> one of the apps, but with the latest version of Mint, Eclipse has
> disappeared. Kind of makes sense, I suspect most computer users aren't
> interested in programming, so if you are going after the mass market
> it's best to concentrate on stuff that's popular.
>
> 'Software Manager' takes care of setting up the menu for the programs it
> supports, which makes sense.
>
> Eclipse's installation should do something to enable you to invoke it,
> but it doesn't even tell you were it is located. The HOME directory is
> kind of a weird place to put it given that Linux has this whole
> labyrinth of directories full of secret stuff. On the other hand, you
> don't have to be super to install it, which is good, since there doesn't
> seem to be any way to be super AND run 'Archive Manager'.

It's well that Eclipse disappeared from Software Manager because the
right way to install Eclipse is NEVER through an OS package manager.

Eclipse isn't installed, on Linux or Windows, as other "installed"
software. It's a personal productivity tool best installed on a local
path under your control (though it can be installed elsewhere with some
trouble). I install mine, for example, on /home/russ/dev/eclipse.

Note, in passing, that IntelliJ works this way too as well as SQuirreL
and many other pieces of developer software I use in my daily work.
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