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Mac custom install failure [message #1707465] Fri, 04 September 2015 21:43 Go to next message
David Brown is currently offline David BrownFriend
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Registered: August 2015
Junior Member
Hi,

I have been able to set up and deploy a custom .setup file for Eclipse installation on Windows 7 target boxes.

I have attempted to use the same .setup file for installing Eclipse on a Mac mini. My problem is that I cannot duplicate the Windows install process on a Mac. The problem does not lie with the contents of the .setup file, rather it lies in accessing the .setup file at all.

Under Windows I put the installer into Advanced mode, select a product, then drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org folder. This creates the <User> folder and my .setup name appears under that, after which I can complete the installation. Everything runs very smoothly after that. I attempted to follow the same steps on a brand new Mac mini.

On my Mac mini, there are a couple of issues. If I download the .setup file from a website, it is downloaded with an .xml extension added. I can rename it with no problem, but this is a Mac annoyance.

When I attempt to drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org folder in the Projects dialog box, nothing happens. No <User> folder is created.

I tried selecting the Eclipse.org folder and pressed the green plus sign that gave me a dialog box to select the .setup file. However, the .setup file was greyed out and could not be selected. (I tried both processes again, leaving the .xml extension on the file, but to no effect.)

I am not a Mac maven, so perhaps I'm simply missing something Mac-ish here. What is the process for using a custom .setup file on a Mac with the Oomph installer?

Thanks!
Re: Mac custom install failure [message #1707480 is a reply to message #1707465] Sat, 05 September 2015 06:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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David,

Comments below.

On 04/09/2015 11:43 PM, David Brown wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been able to set up and deploy a custom .setup file for Eclipse
> installation on Windows 7 target boxes.
>
> I have attempted to use the same .setup file for installing Eclipse on
> a Mac mini. My problem is that I cannot duplicate the Windows install
> process on a Mac. The problem does not lie with the contents of the
> .setup file, rather it lies in accessing the .setup file at all.
I see.
>
> Under Windows I put the installer into Advanced mode, select a
> product, then drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org
> folder. This creates the <User> folder and my .setup name appears
> under that, after which I can complete the installation. Everything
> runs very smoothly after that. I attempted to follow the same steps on
> a brand new Mac mini.
>
> On my Mac mini, there are a couple of issues. If I download the .setup
> file from a website, it is downloaded with an .xml extension added. I
> can rename it with no problem, but this is a Mac annoyance.
Do you need to download it? Can't you refer directly to the setup file
at its website location?
>
> When I attempt to drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org
> folder in the Projects dialog box, nothing happens. No <User> folder
> is created.
Unfortunately Mac and Linux don't provide very good drag and drop
support (at last in terms of SWT's support). In particular, there is no
access to the drag source until you drop, so you can't provide good
feedback simply while dragging...
>
> I tried selecting the Eclipse.org folder and pressed the green plus
> sign that gave me a dialog box to select the .setup file. However, the
> .setup file was greyed out and could not be selected. (I tried both
> processes again, leaving the .xml extension on the file, but to no
> effect.)
You mean in you hit Browse File System... and the native system file
dialog grays things out? I'm not a Mac expert either, but I have no
idea why it would gray something out. Maybe some Mac expert knows or
Google can help.
>
> I am not a Mac maven, so perhaps I'm simply missing something Mac-ish
> here. What is the process for using a custom .setup file on a Mac with
> the Oomph installer?
I would have imagined what's would be most convenient would be a direct
link to the http-hosted setup file. You could do that by pasting the
URL in the Add User Projects dialog. (Or drag and drop it, if you can
get that to work on the Mac; I know it does work there because it worked
on my Mac virtual box).
>
> Thanks!
>


Ed Merks
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Re: Mac custom install failure [message #1707527 is a reply to message #1707480] Sun, 06 September 2015 20:44 Go to previous message
David Brown is currently offline David BrownFriend
Messages: 4
Registered: August 2015
Junior Member
Ed Merks wrote on Sat, 05 September 2015 06:57
David,

Comments below.

On 04/09/2015 11:43 PM, David Brown wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been able to set up and deploy a custom .setup file for Eclipse
> installation on Windows 7 target boxes.
>
> I have attempted to use the same .setup file for installing Eclipse on
> a Mac mini. My problem is that I cannot duplicate the Windows install
> process on a Mac. The problem does not lie with the contents of the
> .setup file, rather it lies in accessing the .setup file at all.
I see.
>
> Under Windows I put the installer into Advanced mode, select a
> product, then drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org
> folder. This creates the <User> folder and my .setup name appears
> under that, after which I can complete the installation. Everything
> runs very smoothly after that. I attempted to follow the same steps on
> a brand new Mac mini.
>
> On my Mac mini, there are a couple of issues. If I download the .setup
> file from a website, it is downloaded with an .xml extension added. I
> can rename it with no problem, but this is a Mac annoyance.
Do you need to download it? Can't you refer directly to the setup file
at its website location?
>
> When I attempt to drag and drop the .setup file onto the Eclipse.org
> folder in the Projects dialog box, nothing happens. No <User> folder
> is created.
Unfortunately Mac and Linux don't provide very good drag and drop
support (at last in terms of SWT's support). In particular, there is no
access to the drag source until you drop, so you can't provide good
feedback simply while dragging...
>
> I tried selecting the Eclipse.org folder and pressed the green plus
> sign that gave me a dialog box to select the .setup file. However, the
> .setup file was greyed out and could not be selected. (I tried both
> processes again, leaving the .xml extension on the file, but to no
> effect.)
You mean in you hit Browse File System... and the native system file
dialog grays things out? I'm not a Mac expert either, but I have no
idea why it would gray something out. Maybe some Mac expert knows or
Google can help.


Yes, the native file system grays things out.

Quote:

>
> I am not a Mac maven, so perhaps I'm simply missing something Mac-ish
> here. What is the process for using a custom .setup file on a Mac with
> the Oomph installer?
I would have imagined what's would be most convenient would be a direct
link to the http-hosted setup file. You could do that by pasting the
URL in the Add User Projects dialog. (Or drag and drop it, if you can
get that to work on the Mac; I know it does work there because it worked
on my Mac virtual box).


I have done the http-hosted setup file instead and it works fine. Drag and drop is a no-go because of the grayed-out problem. Since there is a perfectly useful solution, I'll no longer worry about this problem unless some Mac expert wishes to comment.

Thanks again!
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