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something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317696] Wed, 11 July 2007 22:53 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dingfelder_nospam.gmail.com

something annoying I found today...

I tried to "disable" tptp today because of some errors I was getting...
It seem that there is no easy (obvious) way to turn off a big feature
like that (please tell me if there is a way) so I went into the product
configuration and multi-selected all the tptp plugins and disabled them all.

It took a while, but the system disabled a zillion of them, and all was ok.

today, I tried to re-enable them.

I discovered that the system will only allow you to enable on at a time.

It will take me literally hours to manually enable each one at a time,
as each time it wants to restart eclipse, or at worst, if I say no, it
still refreshes the configuration tree.

anyone have a better way?
Re: something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317706 is a reply to message #317696] Thu, 12 July 2007 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: automatic.javalobby.org

There's a configuration history; you should be able to switch back to a previous configuration before you disabled all the changes.

Alex.
Re: something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317793 is a reply to message #317706] Thu, 12 July 2007 17:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: dingfelder_nospam.gmail.com

I tried that route and it made even more of a mess of my system

here is the scenerio:

1. install eclipse.
2. add tptp
a couple days go by...
3. add cdt
a couple days go by...
4. remove tptp
a couple days go by...
5. add maven, mylyn, subversion + more
a couple days go by...

now I want to get tptp back...

If I go back to step 3, before I removed tptp, i lose all the changes
from step 5, which is not acceptable, as am heavily using the features
from those plugins.

I see the ability to enable or disable "features" instead of plugins as
critical and missing from eclipse, unless it is there and I do not
understand how something works.

For instance, (note: I am picking on tptp here because it is the
feature that started this mess for me, but it equally applies to other
features as well) how do you *temporarily* disable tptp? Currently,
there are over 90 tptp plugins listed in my product configuration
screen... manually disabling them all is easy (multi-select them and hit
disable) but enabling them is a MAJOR PAIN.

I think there should either be:
1. a parent node for the entire feature in the product config page,
where the entire set of plugins can be disabled or enabled
or
2. a node under the window/preferences menu for tptp with an
enable/disable checkbox, or some such functionality

Thoughts?


Alex Blewitt wrote:
> There's a configuration history; you should be able to switch back to a previous configuration before you disabled all the changes.
>
> Alex.
Re: something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317801 is a reply to message #317793] Thu, 12 July 2007 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: automatic.javalobby.org

If you go back to before you installed tptp, then you can easily re-install the mylyn/subclipse plugins again; assuming network bandwidth isn't a problem.

The update manager isn't great, and a lot of things are changing under the covers for the next Eclipse, but I doubt that any further work on update manager as it stands will happen.

If you have multiple extension locations (i.e. don't install them all into the same eclipse/plugins folder) then you can take out individual individual locations as/when you need them. Plus, it means that your plugins are more organised.

None of that helps you now, however ...

Alex.
Re: something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317807 is a reply to message #317793] Thu, 12 July 2007 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: wegener.cboenospam.com

dingfelder wrote:
> I tried that route and it made even more of a mess of my system
>
> here is the scenerio:
>
> 1. install eclipse.
> 2. add tptp
> a couple days go by...
> 3. add cdt
> a couple days go by...
> 4. remove tptp
> a couple days go by...
> 5. add maven, mylyn, subversion + more
> a couple days go by...
>
> now I want to get tptp back...
>
> If I go back to step 3, before I removed tptp, i lose all the changes
> from step 5, which is not acceptable, as am heavily using the features
> from those plugins.
>
> I see the ability to enable or disable "features" instead of plugins as
> critical and missing from eclipse, unless it is there and I do not
> understand how something works.
>
> For instance, (note: I am picking on tptp here because it is the
> feature that started this mess for me, but it equally applies to other
> features as well) how do you *temporarily* disable tptp? Currently,
> there are over 90 tptp plugins listed in my product configuration
> screen... manually disabling them all is easy (multi-select them and hit
> disable) but enabling them is a MAJOR PAIN.
>

Where are you seeing 90 separate TPTP plugins displayed? When you go to
Help->Software Updates->Manage Configuration, you should get a Product
Configuration page with a tree structure on the left. Opening up an
Extension location will give you a list of features installed at that
location. TPTP is made up of 6 features. Each can be selected
individually and disabled/enabled.You may need to disable features in a
particular order because of dependencies, but you certainly can do this
a feature at a time. You should only see the plugins if you expand the
features.

Should be something like
Eclipse SDK
-> C:\eclipse
-> TPTP (feature 1)
-> TPTP (feature 2)
...


> I think there should either be:
> 1. a parent node for the entire feature in the product config page,
> where the entire set of plugins can be disabled or enabled
> or
> 2. a node under the window/preferences menu for tptp with an
> enable/disable checkbox, or some such functionality
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Alex Blewitt wrote:
>> There's a configuration history; you should be able to switch back to
>> a previous configuration before you disabled all the changes.
>>
>> Alex.
Re: something annoying (can only enable 1 plugin at a time) [message #317851 is a reply to message #317801] Fri, 13 July 2007 10:22 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

Alex Blewitt wrote:
> If you have multiple extension locations (i.e. don't install them all
> into the same eclipse/plugins folder) then you can take out
> individual individual locations as/when you need them. Plus, it means
> that your plugins are more organised.

I second this recommendation. I always install extensions into a
separate location, outside of the primary Eclipse install, so that they
are easier to enable/disable and include in multiple Eclipse installs (I
currently have 3 version of Eclipse installed).

Hope this helps,
Eric
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