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[Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #225707] Wed, 01 November 2006 21:21 Go to next message
Anthony Hunter is currently offline Anthony HunterFriend
Messages: 446
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Team,

A draft of the GEF Project Plan for Release 3.3 has been posted to
http://www.eclipse.org/gef/plan/gef_plan_3_3.php

Please send any comments about this draft plan.

Cheers...
Anthony
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227727 is a reply to message #225707] Mon, 11 December 2006 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: alnospammajor.noboxspamspoon.com

just saw this posting. are there any details available for the following
theme:

Usability Enhancements - There are various issues raised on the
usability of GEF based diagrams. This theme is to improve usability of
applications based on GEF.

regards,

al


Anthony Hunter wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> A draft of the GEF Project Plan for Release 3.3 has been posted to
> http://www.eclipse.org/gef/plan/gef_plan_3_3.php
>
> Please send any comments about this draft plan.
>
> Cheers...
> Anthony
>
>
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227828 is a reply to message #227727] Mon, 11 December 2006 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anthony Hunter is currently offline Anthony HunterFriend
Messages: 446
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Al,

These Bugzillas will have the "usability" keyword.

Currently there are none open on GEF with the "usability" keyword.

Cheers...
Anthony

"Al Major" <alnospammajor@noboxspamspoon.com> wrote in message
news:elicr2$nj1$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> just saw this posting. are there any details available for the following
> theme:
>
> Usability Enhancements - There are various issues raised on the usability
> of GEF based diagrams. This theme is to improve usability of applications
> based on GEF.
>
> regards,
>
> al
>
>
> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> A draft of the GEF Project Plan for Release 3.3 has been posted to
>> http://www.eclipse.org/gef/plan/gef_plan_3_3.php
>>
>> Please send any comments about this draft plan.
>>
>> Cheers...
>> Anthony
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227920 is a reply to message #227828] Tue, 12 December 2006 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mathurin.lm.agiledss.com

Hi,
there any plan to move some code from GMF to GEF. The editor generated by
GMF framework are very usefull and with a lot of features (grid, ruler,
auto-layout, zoom, etc...).

There any plan to get this code in pure GEF. The effort of providing a
basic editor can be reduce at minimum.
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227926 is a reply to message #227828] Wed, 13 December 2006 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: alnospammajor.noboxspamspoon.com

hi anthony,

i'm trying to understand the intention of the theme item.

for instance, i'd like to see support in GEF which would allow me to
place a collapsible context thumbnail of the diagram in a corner of the
diagram (like google maps does), instead of in a separate view window.
this would definitely allow more "usable" (IMO) applications to be built
on top of GEF.

is this the kind of usability improvement intended by the theme?

regards,

al

Anthony Hunter wrote:
> Hi Al,
>
> These Bugzillas will have the "usability" keyword.
>
> Currently there are none open on GEF with the "usability" keyword.
>
> Cheers...
> Anthony
>
> "Al Major" <alnospammajor@noboxspamspoon.com> wrote in message
> news:elicr2$nj1$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>> just saw this posting. are there any details available for the following
>> theme:
>>
>> Usability Enhancements - There are various issues raised on the usability
>> of GEF based diagrams. This theme is to improve usability of applications
>> based on GEF.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> al
>>
>>
>> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>>> Hi Team,
>>>
>>> A draft of the GEF Project Plan for Release 3.3 has been posted to
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/gef/plan/gef_plan_3_3.php
>>>
>>> Please send any comments about this draft plan.
>>>
>>> Cheers...
>>> Anthony
>
>
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227991 is a reply to message #227920] Wed, 13 December 2006 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anthony Hunter is currently offline Anthony HunterFriend
Messages: 446
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi

There are no plans to move code from GMF to GEF.

> [...] The effort of providing a basic editor can be reduce at minimum.

Yes, that is a major consideration for one's decision to base an application
on the GMF Runtime rather than pure GEF.

Cheers...
Anthony

"Saturn55" <mathurin.lm@agiledss.com> wrote in message
news:822c48a6544d9d8b6c0ccd880b147292$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Hi,
> there any plan to move some code from GMF to GEF. The editor generated by
> GMF framework are very usefull and with a lot of features (grid, ruler,
> auto-layout, zoom, etc...).
>
> There any plan to get this code in pure GEF. The effort of providing a
> basic editor can be reduce at minimum.
>
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #227997 is a reply to message #227926] Wed, 13 December 2006 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anthony Hunter is currently offline Anthony HunterFriend
Messages: 446
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Al,

This would be an application feature, as opposed to a GEF (framework)
feature.

The intent of the theme item was to identify issues in GEF that prevented
developers from creating usable diagram editors. This was an extension of
the Eclipse 3.3 theme Performance and Usability. (you know what, now that we
created the theme in the plan, we cannot find any usability defects).

Cheers...
Anthony

"Al Major" <alnospammajor@noboxspamspoon.com> wrote in message
news:elntqt$rvi$1@utils.eclipse.org...
> hi anthony,
>
> i'm trying to understand the intention of the theme item.
>
> for instance, i'd like to see support in GEF which would allow me to place
> a collapsible context thumbnail of the diagram in a corner of the diagram
> (like google maps does), instead of in a separate view window. this would
> definitely allow more "usable" (IMO) applications to be built on top of
> GEF.
>
> is this the kind of usability improvement intended by the theme?
>
> regards,
>
> al
>
> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>> Hi Al,
>>
>> These Bugzillas will have the "usability" keyword.
>>
>> Currently there are none open on GEF with the "usability" keyword.
>>
>> Cheers...
>> Anthony
>>
>> "Al Major" <alnospammajor@noboxspamspoon.com> wrote in message
>> news:elicr2$nj1$1@utils.eclipse.org...
>>> just saw this posting. are there any details available for the following
>>> theme:
>>>
>>> Usability Enhancements - There are various issues raised on the
>>> usability of GEF based diagrams. This theme is to improve usability of
>>> applications based on GEF.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> al
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>
>>>> A draft of the GEF Project Plan for Release 3.3 has been posted to
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/gef/plan/gef_plan_3_3.php
>>>>
>>>> Please send any comments about this draft plan.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers...
>>>> Anthony
>>
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #228005 is a reply to message #227991] Wed, 13 December 2006 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: mathurin.lm.agiledss.com

Hi,
[...]Yes, that is a major consideration for one's decision to base an
application
on the GMF Runtime rather than pure GEF.

Your are right, but your domain model must be in EMF and this is a big
constraint. Why we do not use EMF in our current project? EMF is not
ready...yet...to be persist in a database.

Do you know if there is any articles or documentation available that show
how to "Decorate" the basic domain model with an EMF model?

Thanks
Re: [Announce] GEF 3.3 Project Plans [message #228093 is a reply to message #227997] Fri, 15 December 2006 11:37 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: alnospammajor.noboxspamspoon.com

Anthony Hunter wrote:
> Hi Al,
>
> This would be an application feature, as opposed to a GEF (framework)
> feature.
>
> The intent of the theme item was to identify issues in GEF that prevented
> developers from creating usable diagram editors. This was an extension of
> the Eclipse 3.3 theme Performance and Usability. (you know what, now that we
> created the theme in the plan, we cannot find any usability defects).
>

thanks for the clarification.

regards,

al
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